Daedalus

That wouldn't put you in a position to critique too many things then.

Ily

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Faabio

Actually it would put me in a position to critique everything but partners figuring skating

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Oizen

I couldn't possibly disagree more. Impressionism was an attempt to record a split second of visual reality in terms of transient effects of light with color. Rendering what you see and regurgitating the colors and perspective can be done with practice but, to capture light and emotion of "the moment" is... genius.

The first Monet I ever saw took my breath away and I stared and squinted at in the museum for hours by myself, only returning to look at it again the next day. I've seen many beautiful and intricate paintings that I could not "feel" but, I found the impressionists truly challenged the meaning of art. (Muse Dorse > Louvre. If you find yourself on the tourist side of Paris and only get to visit one, skip the Louvre.)

As for the question of the picture. Dantel is very close to the correct answer. Here's the artsy stuff... The confusion lays with the reflected bottles directly to the left of her from our perspective. Here's the trick. Manet is hoodwinking you with the color as the bottles on the counter have similar coloring but are clearly further down the counter almost to it's edge which is nearly two more feet out of scope. She is blocking the reflection of the bottles that you see on the counter beside her. Again the ones in the reflection are out of scope.

There is more to the scene but, what he leaves to our imagination is... her hair.

Manet wasn't even an intentional impressionist, btw. Although his work inspired what is Impressionism.

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Avaela

if there's a mirror, the angles are very fucked then

Sqee

That's what i saw too The top hat dude is the perspective of the image

Talonis

It's a pretty painting....

...but as to the mirror, I think it was the artist's intention to make you think both ways. It's a mindfuck painting. Look at the bar she is leaning against and look at the same edge behind her. Taking into account you are standing directly in front of her, you can see the wall behind her is parallel to the bar. However, the mindfuck is where the artist painted the woman's reflection and the bottles and flower. You couldn't possibly be standing in front of someone, with a parallel wall and mirror behind her and see her reflection and the other items at such an offset angle. Also, her hair length is different in the reflection as viewed from her left side. The front (actual view) shows the hair clearly over the top of the left ear. The reflection shows much shorter hair. Nice try, Manet. Cool pic tho.

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Oizen

I never really looked at this one before (Le Bar aux Folies-Bergère) but, I find the mirror fascinating. The imperfections certainly lead the viewer to question the reality of the reflection. Yea, this is pretty much a fantastic painting. Any painting that invokes thought or emotion basically rocks.

Edit: It's absolutely intentional. That is why the painting is art.

LFG

duh, the mirror is directly behind her, she is behind the bar looking at the crowd reflected in the mirror. The woman on the right (to the facing girl's left) is also a serving wench. She is helping a customer. As you can see, they are both wearing the same uniform.

It's nice to see that the label for Bass Ale hasn't changed after all these years.

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Orochan

I honestly think sometimes people put way too much meaning and inspection into pictures, and try to find a meaning for each and every thing when in the end it might all just be a mistake or overlook by the "artist", not saying this is such a case, but I've drawn many things that people say that they have felt my meaning when the reality couldn't be further from that.



That picture ( that I drew ) for instance, I've had many people come up to me and say how they love how I showed different personalities for each hand and how the bottom right hand represented people with arthritis or disease or w/e and the reality is I just fucking couldn't get the angle that I wanted down to where it looked right.

I drew that pic to pass art class, the teacher just said draw 10 hands at the least. It has no meaning behind it besides what YOU yourself think of when you see it, so in that sense pertaining to the OP's picture, everyone who sees it is either gonna think "no mirror" or mirror" and tbh unless you ask the actual artist what he intended to draw ur never gonna kno who is right or wrong.

Me personally though, I see a trick to make people think there's a mirror, but like I said before no one really knows who is right/wrong except the actual artist.

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