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Old 06-11-2008, 12:18 PM  
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Anyone ever watched a british parliament meeting? Compared to those, this is tame. I'm talking about literal screaming at one another, shouting matches, and the occasional physical scuffle.

What's wrong with a politician that actually speaks his mind, and has the courage to defend his convictions? It'd be nice to get some people on Capitol Hill who are forthright and courageous, willing to say exactly what they mean, and giving America exactly what they need to hear, instead of all of the usual sneaking and disingenuousness.
There's a huge difference between speaking one's mind and losing control.

I think many of the examples in the first post illustrate McCain's inability to maintain his cool, even when he thinks he should do so in retrospect.
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Old 06-11-2008, 12:21 PM  
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Ill take a guy who can beat someone with arguments straight up making the other person look stupid, then someone who says FUCK YOU WOW YOU'RE GAY I'M TOTALLY MADE OF MORE WIN to win.

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with the occasional subtle middle finger to a cunt.
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8. Senator Chuck Grassley - The same Newsweek article that outlined McCain's confrontation with Domenici pointed to a similar incident with Republican Senator Chuck Grassley of Iowa. The two were debating issues related to soldiers who had been reported Missing In Action in Vietnam. After a blistering commentary by McCain, Grassley took offense. "Are you calling me stupid?" he asked.

McCain didn't miss a beat. "No, I'm calling you a fucking jerk."
The only one I had a specific comment on was this one. Only because with McCain being a former POW I can see how a discussion of this nature would get very heated to the point depending on the conversation McCain could have put him in the hospital and I would have been fine with it.

Overall I think this is meaningless. There are better and more valid points to be made if trying to dismantle McCain's presidential bid without resorting to bunco gossip. Especially when McCain has ran on a no bullshit you see what you get platform. It actually kinda plays into his appeal. Passionate, determined, and honest.
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Old 06-11-2008, 01:01 PM  
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Ill take a guy who can beat someone with arguments that are written for him word for word ahead of time straight up making the other person look stupid, then someone who says FUCK YOU WOW YOU'RE GAY I'M TOTALLY MADE OF MORE WIN to win.

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The fact that he can read eloquently off a teleprompter does NOT qualify him to do anything except be a news anchor. Just like someone saying "nucular" is not automatically disqualified. Moral of the story: speaking ability does NOT determine the benefits of a president. Especially nowadays when the President has to be the check and balance over an out of control Congress and Judiciary.

Policy, patriotism, and pride in the country does. With that, I'd be happy to take someone who didn't listen to his spiritual advisor for 20 years saying things like '"God damn America" over someone who lets a colleague know what's thought of him and curses occasionally.

Ahmadinejad speaks very well, is clean and articulate, has a lot of world sympathy, isn't a rich white guy, and definately isn't a member of the republican party... should we elect him as president?

On second thought.. that's kinda what you want to do with electing Barry, isn't it?
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Policy, patriotism, and pride in the country does. With that, I'd be happy to take someone who didn't listen to his spiritual advisor for 20 years saying things like '"God damn America" over someone who lets a colleague know what's thought of him and curses occasionally.

Ahmadinejad speaks very well, is clean and articulate, has a lot of world sympathy, isn't a rich white guy, and definately isn't a member of the republican party... should we elect him as president?

On second thought.. that's kinda what you want to do with electing Barry, isn't it?
If you truly beleive your going to find a candidate that didn't have a collegue/friend/family member/THEMSELF say something poor regarding political correctness you are pretty naive.

You last 2 blocks of text make absolutely no sense. The only point I got out of that was if you are using statistical exlcusion 75% of the world population should be president of the united states.
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Old 06-11-2008, 01:15 PM  
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People who don't get angry are people who don't give a shit.
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If you truly beleive your going to find a candidate that didn't have a collegue/friend/family member/THEMSELF say something poor regarding political correctness you are pretty naive.

It wasn't just "somthing poor regarding political correctness", it was 20 years worth of anti-american crap spewed forth in hatred. You're right, I know plenty of people who rail against this or that.. the ones i don't agree with and take offense from are the ones i stop surrounding myself with. Kinda like that funny uncle who believes the CIA has black helicopters that steals people out of their beds in the middle of the night and created drugs just to keep the poor people "under control"... we don't talk alot at Christmas time.

You last 2 blocks of text make absolutely no sense. The only point I got out of that was if you are using statistical exlcusion 75% of the world population should be president of the united states.
That's my point... these are the main reasons (as i see it) that this guy is where he is. Because he speaks very well, he's not a rich white guy, and he's not Bush (or Bush-lite). Your statement about 75% of the world population proves my point.. that those characteristics do NOT qualify someone to be president and should not be the sole factors in determining a commander-in-chief.
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Old 06-11-2008, 01:35 PM  
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Umm McCain better be president in November. Without McCain , who will deliver the bottles of hot water to orphan babies overseas???????
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Old 06-11-2008, 01:46 PM  
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Umm McCain better be president in November. Without McCain , who will deliver the bottles of hot water to orphan babies overseas???????
QFT!

Dehydrated ones at that.

But what will the rest of us drink?

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The fact that he can read eloquently off a teleprompter does NOT qualify him to do anything except be a news anchor. Just like someone saying "nucular" is not automatically disqualified. Moral of the story: speaking ability does NOT determine the benefits of a president. Especially nowadays when the President has to be the check and balance over an out of control Congress and Judiciary.

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I am still deciding on who to vote for, but have you ever even fucking watched Obama? I have caught several things of his on C-Span, some of which were from several years ago, and it is quite obvious he is a very intelligent and articulate individual who doesn't need to be told what to say or think. I actually really enjoy his conversational style of speaking.
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