aduros

I think if he really wanted to stage it for the white vote, they would have been better off having Jesse Jackson mug a white woman, and Obama jump in and take the bullet. She could hold him in her arms, and shed a single tear that would heal his wounds.

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Kin Meds tbh

Don't recall - as a European - wishing for a muslim terrorist to be in the Whitehouse...

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drychnath

It will be interesting to see if, as the campaigns and media seem to imply when talking about this and other similar incidents surrounding this run, they can successfully convince america that racism belongs to the old, belongs to the previous generations.

I'll vote for the first one that makes that happen, and then vote to extend term limits giving that person a lifelong ticket to guide us into the future.

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Everything is on a great scale upon this continent, the rivers are immense, the climate violent in heat and cold, the prospects magnificent, the thunder and lightning tremendous, the disorders incident to the country make every constitution tremble. Our own blunders here, our misconduct, our losses, our disgraces, our ruin Are On a Great Scale.
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Broomhilde

They can't convince me of this but they can sure as hell try to sell it to the masses for consumption. Many young embrace racist attitudes today. On topic: Jesse did make a hypocrite of himself, and he's disappointment to someone like me that grew up knowing of him and his coalition. I thought he was serious about debunking the use of the word. Perhaps he only meant using the word publically was wrong but OK privately? Either way thats BS. Stand by what you say.

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Krontak

Hopefully this sister souljah moment for Obama will begin to negate many of the negative smear campaigns the right wing nut jobs are using to try and paint him and his wife down as unpatriotic, angry black Americans that only have black interests in mind. This will help him out with many undecided and independents worried about this very thing and allow him to spread his message and vision to a larger audience.

It's unfortunate it took such a negative event to bring about such a positive outcome.

Prof

Hey Kron, I think you're assuming everyone will believe Jesse Jackson's message. I just don't see it swaying opinions; especially after personally burying then grave robbing the coffin of the "N" word. What he said didn't change my mind about either Obama's character.

If Obama would drop the bio-fuels shit and go pro drilling/nuclear, I'd be all for him... as it is, I'm probably flipping a coin in the voter booth. Congress won't pass his health care, he won't pull out of the war until we win, and should he get to appoint a Supreme Court Justice, the court stays relatively balanced and abortion stays legal.

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Krontak

Well, he's not going to drop the bio fuel thing although that is only a small portion of his energy plan. He is interested in encouraging heavy investment into clean coal/nuclear, solar, wind and bio through tax breaks for companies willing to invest in these technologies.

I'm not sure if Congress will pass his health care plan. Its the plan what I'm voting for though. And as far as Iraq goes, I strongly believe he will not shift his position and set the mission to steadily withdraw in 18 months and leave a residual force to deal with any remnants of extremism there.

You are right about the Supreme court though. Currently 7 of the 9 judges have been appointed by Republican presidents and initially leaned conservative. As you probably know, a couple of those now lean liberal and one teeters somewhere in the middle. The court could be extremely imbalanced if two of the leaving liberal leaning judges are replaced by conservative judges as McCain has pledged. Even Scalia has stated it is vital to this country to have a balanced Supreme court to make sure our system is kept in check.

Anyways, I trust McCain with this country and its current economic situation as much as I trust your ability to not get aggro.

Deson

Uh, the Justices are consistent over their entire careers, the only things that have changed seriously are the parties themselves and the way they are reported on. McCain won't appoint the judges he said because it's not in his nature and he's quietly making that point at rallies and a few fundraisers by pointing out that he voted for less radical appointments like Breyer and Ginsberg.

As for your clips, the Michelle Obama thing was properly reported based on the context of the remarks. She can make whatever disclaimers she wants, fact is she as much as anyone has built up the Obamessiah image by saying things like Barack will "heal our souls" and she took some deep shots at Hillary during the primary.Not that I find anything wrong with the sentiment of being proud of the U.S. for the first time in her life since she's obviously a black woman but at least be bold enough to defend your words instead of retreating at the first challenge.

Recessions are psychological. In general there are no automatic triggers and if investor/ consumer confidence is shaken, a recession can be triggered;none of the McCain quotes breach that area like Gramms did. McCain has supported economic stimulus precisely to try and combat a recession so his actions speak louder than his words. Obama pointed out that nuance is not a bad thing; should I call him a theocrat just because his backing of faith-based initiatives vaguely resembles the thoughts of those who think God should run the country? Should I call him Obush because he backs said policy? Wait, new politics so far demands we ignore nuance and actual debate and resort to those most hated sound bites.

Obama will have a Democratic Congress, since we have no history on the guy there is little to go on what he will and will not support but what little we do know suggests he's not going against the polls and at best, since every president seeks reelection, will make token resistances to keep his stock up with "conservative" voters. That healthcare package is getting passed; there is very little reason it won't short of filibuster.

This is hardly a Sister Soulja moment. That would have been some actual opposition to a real Democratic constituency that has no obvious benefit, nor is a political necessity. As yet, Obama has yet to have one. This incident will not help him with those already disinclined toward him except maybe for those voters who have an irrational dislike of all things Jesse Jackson. And if you're going to campaign for Obama, it's 16 months. It's always been 16 months( even though I vaguely remember 14 at some point early on) but here's the kicker-- how many people will he leave behind for counterterrorism and for how long? He can't decide that until after he's in the White House.

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Illuminator

Residual force? Compared with the original invasion plan we've been at a residual force from day one.


And I'd rather not pay attention to the things these candidates said and did once they were in the spotlight of presidential candidacy and knew everyone was watching. Obama's Most-Liberal-Senator status and Illinois non-voting record are still telling. And his wife, from her college thesis to her first-time American pride, will always be a credentialed victimologist. This is what they will relapse into once they feel the White House is theirs.

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Krontak

Rather than spouting a bunch of garbage as usual, please list his % of votes he voted present. I'm pretty sure you'll find out he voted present 3% of the time, which isn't high for Ill. standards.

I've read the first 1/5th of her thesis containing the proclaimed admiration of Carmichael and it is non existent. So, please, tell me exactly what in her thesis was playing your made up "victimologist" word. It was a thesis in a Sociology class from what I remember. It hits on numerous social issues using various social groups as control groups. The portion I read appeared to come strictly from a scientific approach. Maybe you read something chopped into pieces from Hannity's America or something.

Lastly, the pride thing of his wife is a complete distortion of the truth. Seriously, everyone repeating this is either fucking retarded like yourself or just can't read, like yourself. When she spoke of being proud of her county, she spoke of being proud of the support displayed by the populous behind a candidate that was sticking to optimistic ideals vs. running a negative campaign.

I realize no matter how many times she explains what she said, it will be repeated by complete losers like yourself to people that are just dumb and not willing to look up the information or are just looking for a reason not to vote for Obama for whatever prejudices they may have about him or his political stance.