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Old 07-24-2008, 08:19 PM  
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Default Re: The Revolution: A Manifesto, by Ron Paul

Article 3 is not stating that the Federal Government will have overbearing power and control over states and state's rights at its own whim.
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Old 07-24-2008, 08:26 PM  
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Article 3 is not stating that the Federal Government will have overbearing power and control over states and state's rights at its own whim.
Exactly. That's why there has to be a case that to makes it to the Supreme Court first, there the Judicial branch can make such a ruling.

They don't just pick and choose laws on a 'whim' as you suggest.
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Old 07-24-2008, 08:33 PM  
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You're missing the point. Its legality should not be legislated into law by a federal body. Its just a hot topic. That's why politicians make a point to discuss it, or at least let the constituents know their stance.

The Judicial Branch should see this case on a docket and throw it out based on the fact that social issues such as this should be thrown back at the states and not waste important docket time when there are real issues at hand. But I think we're agreeing, in different ways anyway, that abortion should never be a legal issue debated by the federal government, regardless of the branch. Its a state decision, and should be left thusly.

Besides that, abortion shouldn't be a regulated form of birth control. Life is life from conception. However, its not a debt I'll ever have on my conscience, so I'll leave it to the whores to go murder babies.

This issue goes with any social issue as well.
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So then what are you accomplishing by banning abortions in America? Aside from patting your ego on the back.
I accomplish less gridlock in federal government by returning the jurisdiction to the states. Intelligence and not abortion stance then becomes the primary factor in deciding new Supreme Court justices.

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If someone doesn't want to give birth, they will not give birth. Those that do will be raising unwanted children (if they decide to raise it at all), how fucked up do you think that kid will be? As a fiscal conservative, I'm sure you'd be happy seeing all that tax money go to work taking care of those children too.
Another extent of real conservatism is the elimination of wealth redistribution. Although wantonly executing "undesirables" without trial or fault is an interesting viewpoint of yours.

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There will be fewer legal abortions, and higher number of female deaths. An even trade I suppose.
Did you read that saying I posted not long ago? If people are not acting responsibly, the resulting consequences to themselves are not my emergency.

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For the legal aspect with the states, as a constitutionalists yourself, you should have no trouble obeying U.S. Constitution: Article III, Section 2
In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.

Therein lies our salvation.

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I don't consider it anything. In fact I think of it no differently than when I "pull out" or wake up and decide to rub out the morning wood. That's countless potential lives wasted right there.
I know you think nothing of it. Choose a government that doesn't respect life and eventually it won't respect yours either. Are you European BTW?

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The government shouldn't be used as a tool to push moral convictions.
The government will imprison me if I cut your spinal cord with a butcher knife, therefore I have decided not to.
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Just started reading it. Awesome book imo.
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