Morara

Is that as bad as Chiquita deliberately paying a Colombian terrorist group for protection?

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Laodaron

I can't understand how anyone can feel bad for people who allow other people to walk all over them...that's all I'm saying.

icKx

Yep nobody in the history of European imperialism ever, ever resisted.

Goddamn, I mean did you even take a history class?

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Pinski

This is Laodaron. If you don't agree with him, you're making things up. Everything he says is the truth, no matter what, period. Even if it's obviously completely made up.

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Laodaron

I'm suggesting that the excuse of "European Imperialism" is a farce. Yeah, 200 years ago, it makes sense. Today? Its just lazy.

Daedalus

By preventing them from being able to form nations, and the fact that they were so technologically far behind the rest of the world is what fucked them over then and is at the root of the problems today.

If that's tough for you to picture, imagine that all the countries in the world are racing. Europe goes and clubs Africa in the knees, so, it takes Africa significantly longer to "finish" the race. Get it?

Laodaron

Yeah, I get that. 200 years ago, when countries such as America were able to break away, they couldn't do it. 200 years later (meaning today) they could if they tried. But they're too apathetic, therefore, they let what's going on over there happen.

Tyirul

In the past 200 years, technology has vastly changed. We all know technology has a way of changing life too. When you face a superior opponent, it's very rarely and usually through luck that you win. A changing time, and changing cultures set a curve when the ones on the brink are always at top.

I don't believe Apathy plays as major a role as you believe. It's probably more along the lines of a lack of resources that most foundling nations occur.

You seem entirely unable to actually understand and accept any perspective but your own. I imagine this has helped you through some tough shit, but it doesn't change the world to your beliefs nonetheless.

Daedalus

As Americans, we should be one of the last people to comment on the apathy of other countries.

Also, if Africa was truly apathetic, Ethiopia would've been an easy takeover for Mussolini, right?

Laodaron

We're apathetic living in our land of excess. Its different. I'm not trying to justify it, but once you reach the top, you get to take a break for a breather.