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Old 08-04-2008, 05:17 PM  
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So basically your point is that you are willing to block progress in order to blame a republican president who has nothing to do with congress debate in order to trick people into voting for your buddies.

Thats pretty interesting coming from you.

I prefer to look at it as postponing progress for the sake of getting it right. If in doing so, a few people are persuaded to vote for “my buddies”, then yeah, I’m all for it.

But, if I have to watch the ads I see coming out of the GOP’s nominee for President in an effort to “trick” people into voting for him for all the wrong reasons, then I see no harm in “tricking” someone into voting for my nominee for the right ones.
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Old 08-04-2008, 05:27 PM  
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My heart bleeds, holy shit that's cheap. Over here it's about £1.30/litre. Which is about $2.60/litre. So that's approx $11.70/gallon.

Your math is wrong

1 pound = 1.995 US dollar

1.3 x 1.959 = 2.5467 ~ 2 dollars 55 cents

1 US gallon = 3.78541178 liters

2.55 x 3.78541178 = price per gallon converted

Value = 9.6528 ~ $9.65 per gallon

It's still a lot but not 11.60... you also have to factor in that atleast 50% of the money you pay is taxes.. while out here in the US it's somewhere around 8% taxes.
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Old 08-05-2008, 11:29 PM  
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The only influence the president has had on the debate at hand is him removing the presidential moratorium on offshore drilling, at least in my opinion.

edit: that single move killed off a democrat scapegoat which was.. 'even if we vote for it the president still has his moratorium.'
One other thing, and someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I heard Mark Levin last night say that that moratorium actually required anual renewal.

In other words, every president since its inception has had to actually ban off-shore drilling...multiple times. That means Bush banned off-shore drilling at least seven times according to my math.

Makes how this all turned out, timing-wise, very interesting.
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:34 AM  
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Speaking of oil and gas...

Sean Hannity is brain dead. I was listening to him today, and him and Gingrich were taking turns poking fun at Obama in regard to tire pressure. The it went to commercial and this is where it gets funny.

Take a wild guess at what the commercial was about? Give up?

Tire Pressure.

And, guess who's voice was on the commercial? Give up?

None other than Sean Hannity. I hope someone can record this commercial cause I can't. The station is WMAL in DC if that helps anyone get a hold of the commercial. Post that thing on Huffington Post. If you don't have a OfftheBuss account contact me and I will. thnx
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Old 08-06-2008, 02:44 PM  
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From what I'm reading the moratorium seems to fall under a different term called Presidential Withdraw.

Presidential withdrawal: Under section 12 of the Outer Continental Shelf Lands Act (OCSLA), the President has the power to withdraw certain areas from offshore leasing. This is called a presidential withdrawal, also referred to as an executive withdrawal or presidential moratorium. The past three presidents have used the power of withdrawal to reinforce protection for the areas under the congressional moratorium.

The Congressional Moratorium is the one that gets updated each year it seems.

Congressional moratorium: In the early 1980s, the Minerals Management Service (MMS), the branch of the federal government that manages offshore Outer Continental Shelf (OCS) oil and gas resources attempted to offer virtually all waters around the U.S. to oil and gas companies. There was a loud community outcry from Barrow, Alaska to Key West, Florida. Fishermen nation–wide organized to protect their fishing grounds. Bowhead whale hunters worked to protect areas important for whale migration. Tourist businesses and coastal residents focused on protecting highly vulnerable areas such as coral reefs. As a result, Congress stepped in with the offshore drilling moratorium. Each year since 1982, Congress has passed a measure in the Interior Appropriations bill to prohibit oil and gas leasing or exploration on the Outer Continental Shelf off the vast majority of the nation's coastline.

Both of these come from this link, which gives a good timeline based on Bristol Bay.

History of Protection — Alaska Marine Conservation Council

Let it be said though, the Exxon Valdez spill had nothing to do with offshore drilling. It had everything to do with allowing a known alcohilic to pilot a big boat full of oil. Also, there are a handful of places that are immune to drilling regardless of moratorium, these are Channel Islands and Monterey Bay in California, the Florida Keys, Gray's Reef in Georgia and the Olympic Coast sanctuary in Washington State. Those places are off limits and I don't believe that will ever change. Ironically enough though, Cuba has allowed China and others to explore for oil, and although they've not gone very far off of the Cuban coastline and their exploration hasn't returned any oil yet, they are planning to use slant drilling which when they do hit an oil deposit, it will essentially be a US oil deposit. From the articles that I've been reading over the past hour or so claim that leases off the northern coast of Cuba are still essentially up for grabs, and that China is drilling oil on Cuban land, and exploring for oil on the coasts, but not actually offshore.. yet.
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