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08-19-2008, 10:48 AM
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Re: Minorities set to be US majority
First of all, the article is about race, not immigration. And ask an American Indian, I'm sure he could teach you a thing or two you've probablY conveniently forgotten about American History. Shit, contemporary history for that matter.
Second of all, whether you like to admit it, racism in varying degrees is pretty rampant in America. And until you walk a mile in the shoes of it, you have no room to accuse anyone of having a victim mentality. Do some milk it? Fucking A. But some have legitimate gripes.
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08-19-2008, 10:51 AM
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Re: Minorities set to be US majority
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Originally Posted by Illuminator
If they all speak English, understand American history, mind their education, and are loyal to the country without a victim agenda, then it'll be no big deal.
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I do all better than you, except maybe speak english, I just hated my english teachers/professors...
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Originally Posted by Flipmode
What Illuminator is trying to say is we should learn our place in his country...
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Eh, funny part is, his family came here just like ours, that is the part I love the most.
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Originally Posted by Kin Meds tbh
you don't have anyone like that there now!
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Sarcasm QFT, it is sad how many people don't know shit
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Originally Posted by Illuminator
I present Exhibit A: a lazy victim
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Exhibit B: a typical hypocrite who forgot where their family came from...
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Originally Posted by Cracatoa
What he's trying to say is what every country expects...You're more than welcome to move here, if you do so appropriately, however YOU are expected to assimilate.
The best example is here in Texas, where if you cannot speak some Spanish at this point, you're kinda fucked. So many completely under-educated illegals here that have 0 desire to actually invest here and are more likely to send everything back to Mexico that it is extremely out of control.
Of course, if you're not in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona or Southern California, you probably have no idea how bad the problems really are becoming. Don't worry, MS-13 will spread to a neighborhood near you anyday now!
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I barely know Spanish, <--- half Mexican, half whitey (Swiss *great grandma actually came to America later than the Mexican side*/welsh), and I lived in New Mexico for a while I actually enjoyed the culture, is a nice change.
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Originally Posted by Laodaron
I love that America is basically the only country that will accept the shit of some other country, without any real screening or education first. However, were we to try to move into those other countries, we'd be forced to eat all of their propaganda bullshit all day long.
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America prolly has more propaganda than anywhere else, think about it Mr. Consumer  , and no I am not some hippy, just fact, we are bred into bullshit so deep...
*edit* You suck old man  , I just finished typing all of that out
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Originally Posted by Otis
First of all, the article is about race, not immigration. And ask an American Indian, I'm sure he could teach you a thing or two you've probablY conveniently forgotten about American History. Shit, contemporary history for that matter.
Second of all, whether you like to admit it, racism in varying degrees is pretty rampant in America. And until you walk a mile in the shoes of it, you have no room to accuse anyone of having a victim mentality. Do some milk it? Fucking A. But some have legitimate gripes.
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QFT
I also forgot to throw in earlier, my mexican great grandfather actually came across the border the first time with the last Pancho Via (the one who was shot in his car) who he was forced to ride with after he stole his horses. Was told if he wanted them back he had to do a few things, and eventually I guess he became friends with him, as my great uncle was born in one of his houses in Chihuahua.
Funny Story about that great uncle also, he was in WW2, where he was shot at by a tank, which made a building fall in around him. My great grandmother received a letter from the army saying how he had been killed in action, and a few months later, he ends up showing up at the front door. Just wanted to throw that in, since we are talking about how American people are  , and how they somehow aren't if they don't assimilate to some bullshit 
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08-19-2008, 10:51 AM
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Done and Done.
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Re: Minorities set to be US majority
I'll never criticize someone for actually being persecuted. However, when everyone else sees it and jumps on the bandwagon, that's when we as Americans need to stand up and say enough is enough.
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08-19-2008, 10:53 AM
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Re: Minorities set to be US majority
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America prolly has more propaganda than anywhere else, think about it Mr. Consumer  , and no I am not some hippy, just fact, we are bred into bullshit so deep...
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Wow are you way off. I'm assuming you've never been to the Middle East, Europe, or Asia? There's about 150 countries right THERE with SIGNIFICANTLY more propaganda than America.
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08-19-2008, 10:54 AM
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God Damn, The Pusherman
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Re: Minorities set to be US majority
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Originally Posted by Laodaron
I'll never criticize someone for actually being persecuted. However, when everyone else sees it and jumps on the bandwagon, that's when we as Americans need to stand up and say enough is enough.
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When we as Americans can proudly wear that "Racism free" badge, then we can stand up and say enough is enough.
Not before.
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08-19-2008, 10:58 AM
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Re: Minorities set to be US majority
Bullshit. Xenophoboia has been a condition of man since we've been around. I like that you feel so important that you can change the state of mankind, but lets be more realistic. If people stopped playing the victim card so often, then there wouldn't be NEARLY as many stereotypes to fill.
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08-19-2008, 11:00 AM
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Re: Minorities set to be US majority
America, as a nation is pretty hypocritical. I had the good fortune of growing up half black/half white in the south. Let me just tell you, if you think everyone in this country has equal rights or equal potential, you are fooling yourself. Sure they wont come out and say it. But it is there none the less.
Thats not a victim mentality. Just the cold truth. And as the Thelounge pointed out, sometime white folks forget how they came here and who they killed to take the land.
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08-19-2008, 11:02 AM
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King of the Ellipsis...
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Re: Minorities set to be US majority
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Wow are you way off. I'm assuming you've never been to the Middle East, Europe, or Asia? There's about 150 countries right THERE with SIGNIFICANTLY more propaganda than America.
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Been to Germany, Wales, England, Ireland, France, Mexico, all before I Was 5  So eh, maybe I didn't recognize things like I would now, but still have memories of things.
But no, I don't think I am way off, news networks, our government, come on man, I Am not a conspiracy theorist at all, but just think about it, the masses everywhere are fed propaganda, that is how things work (big period)
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08-19-2008, 11:04 AM
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Re: Minorities set to be US majority
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Originally Posted by Flipmode
America, as a nation is pretty hypocritical. I had the good fortune of growing up half black/half white in the south. Let me just tell you, if you think everyone in this country has equal rights or equal potential, you are fooling yourself. Sure they wont come out and say it. But it is there none the less.
Thats not a victim mentality. Just the cold truth. And as the Thelounge pointed out, sometime white folks forget how they came here and who they killed to take the land.
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Oh yeah? I just WISH ONCE that I could recieve the minority benefits that America provides. I've been all over the US, and I've rarely seen purely vicitmized people. I've mainly seen people playing the vicitim card to get more out of the system.
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Originally Posted by Thelounge
Been to Germany, Wales, England, Ireland, France, Mexico, all before I Was 5  So eh, maybe I didn't recognize things like I would now, but still have memories of things.
But no, I don't think I am way off, news networks, our government, come on man, I Am not a conspiracy theorist at all, but just think about it, the masses everywhere are fed propaganda, that is how things work (big period)
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I'm not saying America DOESN'T deal in propaganda, just that its not as prevalent as most other countries.
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08-19-2008, 11:07 AM
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Re: Minorities set to be US majority
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Been to Germany, Wales, England, Ireland, France, Mexico, all before I Was 5  So eh, maybe I didn't recognize things like I would now, but still have memories of things.
But no, I don't think I am way off, news networks, our government, come on man, I Am not a conspiracy theorist at all, but just think about it, the masses everywhere are fed propaganda, that is how things work (big period)
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Laodaron's point is valid though. Other countries do have more propaganda than us. But then again our western, U.S. "I have rights" may have just been propaganda too. 
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