Otis

I'm trying to change the state of man, yet you want people who have a legitimate beef to just accept it, while living in a country founded by and for people who wouldn't do so themselves.

Get a clue.

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Flipmode

I wouldnt know about minority benefits. I dont receive any. I dont play the victim but that doesnt make me blind. I see shit for what it is. Everyone is prejudiced to some degree I suppose. But lets be honest. White people run America because they have all the power.

Funny thing happened when I was in the military traveling overseas. Most people who hated americans actually had no beef with blacks or hispanics. Only the white people it seemed. They said white people in America have a sense of superiority they disliked. Tell me that isnt true of the majority of white America with a straight face?

Laodaron

A sense of superiority? Nah, not the people I know. Now a sense of earn your keep? Yeah, most of the people I know and have ever encountered (white mind you) have a sense of earn your own way.

And if they don't, they can fuck off too. I'm not a racist, but I sure as fuck am prejudiced against people that refuse to earn their own way.

Thelounge

You know how many white people (just using this term loosely) use and abuse social security, and hell Masshealth here in Assachusetts (state funded health insurance) You want to see a state where everyone gets benefits? come to Assachusetts, it is high in taxes for a reason, and I don't get any benefits (because I make 32k+ a year as a full time student, I don't even fit into anything for financial aid of any kind, even though I work my ass off to live and go to school)

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Otis

I'm white and I definitely have certain prejudices.

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Flipmode

Like I said, we all do. Dont think i dont have an equal laundry list of issues with most black people in America. This isnt the thread for that though. Did I mention I married a Mexican. There goes the neighborhood.

Thelounge

Good man , and good choice

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Otis

Fuck that, real Mexican food rawks!

But, I will say my prejudices aren't really based on superiority. I mean, I once saw an old black couple on a fishing boat whip out some fried chicken and watermelon for lunch and chuckled to myself. Is that wrong?

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Rinion

How very racist of you to assume everyone that talks like illuminator is White and of European decent.

just sayin. It goes both ways.

The "We stole this land" excuse is getting very old.
How did England come into existence? Normans came across the sea and took it from Saxons!
How did France come to be? Romans conquered the Celtic Tribes then after Rome's fall in the western empire Germanic tribes took it from them.
Want to hear about Rome itself to? How it was a Greek colony that TOOK Italy?

You know what all the origin stories have in common? Cultural change didn't happen until someone stronger came and forced it.

How many tribes of American Indians have done the same? The Aztec's TOOK their land from the declining Maya. How many are extinct today because they were conquered by other tribes?

The only difference is how our Histories were recorded, if recorded at all.

edit: forgot to quote

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drychnath

Yes, because trans-fats are killing america

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Everything is on a great scale upon this continent, the rivers are immense, the climate violent in heat and cold, the prospects magnificent, the thunder and lightning tremendous, the disorders incident to the country make every constitution tremble. Our own blunders here, our misconduct, our losses, our disgraces, our ruin Are On a Great Scale.
-Lord Carlisle