Illuminator

Please tell me why Russia builds nuclear facilities for Iran. And then please tell me why you act surprised when we respond by putting missile defenses in Eastern Europe.

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Deson

Isn't that the same as asking why it was ok for the U.S. to have missiles at point blank range to the USSR but the same wasn't ok when they wanted missiles next to the US? Or for that matter when the West props up a ruthless dictator that supports its ends it's real politik but when the Russia and China do it they are defying international will and agents of evil?

Aren't there millions of these dual reality questions?

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Illuminator

This is his question, I'm waiting for his answer.

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Deson

Noted and understood when I saw the thread title. I just find these sorts of questions near irresistible as an opportunity to point out the bullshit inherent in politics of all kinds.

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Meta

Tbh how dare Russia and Iran try to defend themselves. It's an outrage.

Remember only 1 country EVER used nuclear weapons. Just 1.

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kaif

Russia is doing nothing more then we would.....Bay of Pigs anyone?

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Daedalus

Wat?

Unless you mean militarily, that statement is absolutely false.

Meta

Big difference between test firing and dropping a nuclear bomb on a city full of people (or two for that matter). Which is of course what I was referring to.

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Fomka

Probably because Russia doesn't want to play by US rules anymore. And you know, I like it, because in this world either you eat someone or someone will eat you and looks like our government didn't like the way of food. Some people let you to manipulate them because they prefer easier way, but not everyone is like that and I think it's not cool for USA when you manipulate half of planet and then someone basically trying to let you know that you should fuck off
Tho I do not support any military actions at all, but it happens no matter what me or you think/ do.

Meta

It just occurred to me. You're assuming the nuclear 'facilities' are military. It's a nice word for the government/press to use. 'Facility' is quite vague, but everyone knows what 'nuclear' implies.

So really what they're doing (and there's absolutely no proof to the contrary) is helping Iran build nuclear power stations to.. um... y'know.. improve their electricity supply?

Tbh though I hope Iran does get nuclear weapons. An islamic country with nuclear weapons might actually shift the balance of power a little bit more towards the middle east, which could make the world that little bit more peaceful. The only downside would be the US might have to pay a bit more for oil. Oh and Israel would be in deep deep shit, but they deserve it.

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