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Old 09-12-2008, 11:15 AM  
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YouTube - Know Enough? (Obama & Bill Ayers ad) - Barack and the terrorist

Just curious on your opinion?
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Old 09-12-2008, 11:29 AM  
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I can really relate to this one. As spending time there myself seeing some sacrifices also.

YouTube - Dear Mr. Obama
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Old 09-12-2008, 12:10 PM  
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urdum. and no ones paying attention anymore. the end. baibai
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Old 09-12-2008, 01:35 PM  
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Old news is old.
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Old 09-12-2008, 09:10 PM  
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I fucking hate Obama and you still annoy me.
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Funny that it does raise an interesting question but people just dismiss it as the Right trying to "Swiftboat" him...
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Old 09-12-2008, 09:53 PM  
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Funny that it does raise an interesting question but people just dismiss it as the Right trying to "Swiftboat" him...
+1 to the dumb doods.



OH HAI PS, MCCAIN EATS BABIES. BUT THEY JUST SAYIN IM SWITFBOATIN MANG. BUT ITS AN INTERESTING POINT U SHOULD LISTEN TO ME!
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OH HAI PS, MCCAIN EATS BABIES. BUT THEY JUST SAYIN IM SWITFBOATIN MANG. BUT ITS AN INTERESTING POINT U SHOULD LISTEN TO ME!
Huge difference. Obama himself has given different responses at different times of political pressure on his relationships to Ayers and other controversial people. As the pressure rose Ayers went from "friendly" to "just some guy I worked with". Even if the acts were done when Obama was 8--which his campaign uses as a defense-- the fact that he is unrepentant, uses moral equivalence to defend his actions and wishes he did more, makes the association questionable since it was friendly all the way up until Obama started catching flak for it. It's the same problem with Rev. Wright, when you listen to the older interviews and hear Obama clearly saying Wright could be a problem then disavowing any knowledge of how controversial his pastor could be. Obama is too smart to have not looked into Wright-- a man he mentioned prominently in the positive-- and not have found anything. That's not swiftboating, that's asking a legit question about how the man keeps ending up in bad company and how he shifts when confronted.
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Old 09-12-2008, 10:16 PM  
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I am just determining where my vote is going to. I am right leaning but I am not religious. I see some very disturbing things from the Obama camp like this Ayers guy. The only thing they come up with against McCain is 4 more years of Bush policies. I like McCain's view on oil and what the U.S. can try to do to rid itself of the dependence. I am just wondering how much big oil is lining the pockets of the candidates?
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Old 09-13-2008, 01:22 AM  
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Don't fucking vote. Waste of time. In the words of George Carlin " This country was bought and paid for long ago"


A checkmark on a piece of paper isn't going to make any difference. For the past howevermany years, people have been voting AGAINST something, not for something. Do yourself a favor, stay home and watch Oprah.
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