Tell me if my info is off, but I was under the impression it takes 4-5 hours to charge for the 40 miles. So best case scenerio @ 60mph and @4 hour charge time for en entire year the most you could possibly go is 45,052 miles a year. @ 5 hour charge time its 37,101.
A person using 1 charge a day can go 14,600 miles and someone using full capacity to work, then charging at work and driving back at full capacity gets 29,200.
EDIT - The point being that in order to get full use of investment from this car you have to drive a lot of miles which most people can't do in this car.
Electric cars have less working parts to break so less maintenanceMy 2005 Prius I could sell for only a few thousand less then I paid for it.
Need me to de-bunk any more myths for ya?
There are also quite a few other manufactures out there with sub $15k PHEV (pure hybrid electric vehicles) in testing and on the horizon for 2010-2011.
Sure, debunk the myth that a friend of mine in Georgia had his 2007 Prius totaled when the area he lived in was flooded with 2 foot of water and the whole electrical system in his Prius was totaled.
Just 2 foot of water mind you, it wasn't a river or a deluge, just 2 foot of standing water, whole $30,000 car totaled.
Why doesn't anyone talk about the poisonous metals used for batteries? The damage done to mine the lithium and nickel and make those batteries? Is it just because the damage isn't done inside the US? (Like the whole oil drilling problem. Sure, we have to use oil for stuff, just don't get it here!)
Nobody talks about the environmental impact of shipping the prius, or the impact of how Toyota gets the parts they outsource.
From Wired:
If a new Prius were placed head-to-head with a used car, would the Prius win? Don't bet on it. Making a Prius consumes 113 million BTUs, according to sustainability engineer Pablo Päster. A single gallon of gas contains about 113,000 Btus, so Toyota's green wonder guzzles the equivalent of 1,000 gallons before it clocks its first mile. A used car, on the other hand, starts with a significant advantage: The first owner has already paid off its carbon debt. Buy a decade-old Toyota Tercel, which gets a respectable 35 mpg, and the Prius will have to drive 100,000 miles to catch up.
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As a CA you more then anyone know a car is one of the worst investments ever, no matter what kind you buy.
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Originally Posted by Hexus
Sure, debunk the myth that a friend of mine in Georgia had his 2007 Prius totaled when the area he lived in was flooded with 2 foot of water and the whole electrical system in his Prius was totaled.
Just 2 foot of water mind you, it wasn't a river or a deluge, just 2 foot of standing water, whole $30,000 car totaled.
-Hexus-
I would imagine 2 feet of water would do damage to any car's electrical system. It only takes what like a foot of water to float most cars.
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Originally Posted by drychnath
Why doesn't anyone talk about the poisonous metals used for batteries? The damage done to mine the lithium and nickel and make those batteries? Is it just because the damage isn't done inside the US? (Like the whole oil drilling problem. Sure, we have to use oil for stuff, just don't get it here!)
Nobody talks about the environmental impact of shipping the prius, or the impact of how Toyota gets the parts they outsource.
In any case, Prius batteries, which contain 32 pounds of nickel each, require only a fraction of the world's supply. More than 94 percent of the 1.55 million tons of nickel mined each year is used for stainless steel, alloys, and electroplating. So the batteries for the one million hybrids Toyota has sold so far have required only one percent of the world's annual nickel-mining production. Since the estimates on nickel recycling indicate about 80 percent is being reused, a million Priuses' share of newly mined nickel would really only be about two-tenths of one percent.
Toyota says the batteries will last for 180,000 and is fully recyclable. In fact from what I understand with the millions of Pruis sold there have only been a handful of battery replacements.
As for the energy to ship them across sea, Toyota will be building the 2010 here in the USA.
Anyone think to check whether or not you're eligible for any tax credits when you purchase the Volt?
Some states do, but nothing from the Feds. There use to be one offered but that went away after I bought mine. I think back in '05 I got like a $2500 tax credit.
$3.50/gallon of gas? No wonder it takes so long. Let's use more realistic numbers, like $4 combined with inflation, expect it over the next 7 years to average easily out at around $6.50. So using those numbers, and it becomes a better deal.
Either way, considering it only goes 40 miles on a charge, it's not that good for the majority of people.
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