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View Poll Results: What to do about US automakers?
Leave them alone, if they die, they die. 35 67.31%
Bail them out, but with loans. 15 28.85%
Bail them out and nationalize them. 2 3.85%
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Old 11-21-2008, 05:16 PM  
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end all farm subsidies imo.

people would have an stroke if they knew how much the gov't paid people for their empty tobacco allotments (allotment - piece of land the gov't says on which you can grow tobacco, there is a limitied # of acres they in their infinite wisdom have allowed for such a purpose)
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Old 11-21-2008, 11:08 PM  
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Ethanol is a fucking scam.

In the interest of... self-interest... NO. You have no idea how cheap ethanol is compared to regular gas here :P. Don't know if it's the same everywhere, but we sure make alot of it.
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In the interest of... self-interest... NO. You have no idea how cheap ethanol is compared to regular gas here :P. Don't know if it's the same everywhere, but we sure make alot of it.
Which do you think you buy more of, food or ethanol?
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Which do you think you buy more of, food or ethanol?
Which do you think you spend more money on?

In America it's about equal for anyone that commutes to work, how scary is that?

Maybe re-phrase to say: Which do you think you buy more of, corn-based food products, or ethanol?

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Which do you think you spend more money on?

In America it's about equal for anyone that commutes to work, how scary is that?

Maybe re-phrase to say: Which do you think you buy more of, corn-based food products, or ethanol?

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You'd be surprised how far the ripple goes due to the ethanol subsidies.
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Which do you think you buy more of, food or ethanol?
I used to put 100 miles a day driving because of work. 75 for the commute and 25 for job stuff.
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In the interest of... self-interest... NO. You have no idea how cheap ethanol is compared to regular gas here :P. Don't know if it's the same everywhere, but we sure make alot of it.
Cheep?

How is ethanol cheep when it takes more energy to produce a gallon of the stuff then said gallon will produce.

David Pimental, a leading Cornell University agricultural expert, has calculated....70 percent more energy is required to produce ethanol than the energy that actually is in it. Every time you make one gallon of ethanol, there is a net energy loss of 54,000 BTUs.

Or Cheep as in the gallons of water it takes to produce just 1 gallon of ethanol?

Or do you mean cheep as in cars get worse MPG?

From Consumer Reports: The fuel economy of the Tahoe dropped 27 percent when running on E85 compared with gasoline.

or could it be that there is evidence that ethanol may be damaging to car engines?

Mechanics see ethanol damaging small engines\

Ethanol rocks if you ask me.
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