Syrk

Zane,

I understand what it looks like so I really dont blame you, and I respect you for doing what you believe. Like I said before I'm sorry you thought I was making fun of you. I've asked others to just let it be and leave you alone because I can understand your perspective, but people are gonna do what people are gonna do. As for taking joy in you being upset that was hardly the case; I offered to remove myself if you had an issue with me, putting you above me. I'm not gonna argue about anything because its pointless and people are going to and are entitled to think what they want, but if anything I felt bad that you were upset whether you believe it or not and have nothing but cordial since. Anyway, good luck with everything man.

hcre

I am not hardcore FPS, but who the hell makes 1 their single shot button?

Rinion

Case closed? Since when does the program magicly hit enter to?

Something does sound screwy here. BUT, macro programs don't hit enter for you unless programed to, when tradeskilling their is no reason to hit enter if anything it would of opened the chat bar spammed 11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 111111111 but never went through.

do you use the enter key when tradeskilling? I never did. except when typing a message to someone.

but then if it was a cat just walking oer the key board how was that the only key it waqs pressing multiple time and how did it manage to only hit it and the enter key.


Easy solution is enter key is a reload for a FPS, out of the FPS games he listed, do any of them use the enter key for reload?


If not, I guess he just has one shitty bot program.

Also, the fact he has been playing so long and doesnt have any level 70 crafters in a good point, unless of course he just recently found the program.

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hcre

Rinion,

He has stated he has a nostromo. I have a Nostromo as well, on another computer since my main computer runs XP64 and last I checked it still does not work for 64 bit operating systems (haven’t checked in a while). I have used the nostromo to write macros for other games. The nostromo can and will hit the enter key for you.

Further, sometimes when I craft I go into zombie mode, where I am really watching tv or something and not real concerned about the quality of the product, like if making food or arrows. When this happens I often place the mouse right where the button for “same recipe” and then on the next screen “begin” overlap, this way I just have to hit enter twice when I notice I’ve stopped crafting and I start crafting again.

What got me is if you look closer you will see every third set of 111’s in the screenshots is one or two 1’s longer than the rest. Then I realized, if I was going to make a macro I probably wouldn’t want it to do the same exact thing every time as that might trip some flags at SOE. So my guess is he recorded himself creating at least three items and then set it to loop, thus introducing at least some randomness so he isn’t doing exactly the same thing every time, just every third time.

EDIT: In any case the fact that the number of 1’s is not always the same blows his “used for FPS games” excuse clean out of the water. That, and if I remember correctly the nostromo uses different loads for different games.

Evangel

"What it looks like"? Stop ignoring the facts and explain how you levelled up, and deguilded your other two toons while at the fucking fair.

Rinion

I understand that. My point is what is the purpose of using the enter key in the macro? No duh it can and will press it for you, but why would it be programed in?

Something just sounds off.

Why would it only spam 1 to? if its a macro program just pressing hot keys for you wouldn't you need other hot keys made? you know a hot key to select craft / repeat / ect

and if the program uses automated mouse clicks why would it bother using a hot key?

imo the Nostromo was an un-intended side effect, that spamed 111111 because of his cat and another program. That or this deserves to be a RaR thread because the retard can't even cheat well and uses a gheto form of boting.

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hcre

Hmm, maybe I didn’t explain well enough.

The nostromo can do mouse clicks, but it will not automatically macro them, so you must have at least some skill to insert mouse clicks into a nostromo macro. However, if you leave the pointer over a button, the enter key will press it.

Therefore, the enter key was what he was using to initiate the crafting.

Rinion

and the Nostromo has an auto repeat function so it keeps initiating the macro over and over without clicking a key? If so why would enter be required more then once?

Also, if enter was used to intiate it, what was used to click enter? Like I said I doubt he was using the nostromo to bot.

Their had to have been a program in play and likely what happened is the cat did mess with his shit, started a macro that was a long series of 1111111111111111 and the bot program input it into guild chat as a side effect.

unless he reallt does use a program AND a macro key board, which is about the dumbest most gheto way to bot I have ever heard of.

Seriously, anyone out their that does that? your a retard.

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hcre

Ok, let me try one more time.

He used the nostromo to record a macro that repeats.

Then he goes and places the mouse where the repeat last recipe and begin buttons overlap.

The macro hits enter on begin to initiate crafting.

It then hits 1 at timed intervals to use a tradeskill buff, 1 might even be linked to an eq macro that does two of the buffs.

Eventually the crafting ends. To start the crafting up again the macro hits enter to click the repeat last recipe button, and then enter again to hit the begin button.

Then it hits a series of 1s at timed intervals.

Crafting ends again, the macro hits enter again to click the repeat last recipe button and then hits enter again to begin crafting a third item.

Then it hits a series of 1s at timed intervals again.

Crafting ends yet again. This time the macro hits enter just once on the repeat last recipe button and loops back to the start of the macro where the enter at the start hits the begin again, and the whole thing repeats.

It is obvious this is what he is doing. Two enters are needed to restart the crafting macro. Two enters will also close of and send a typed message with the second enter opening another. Thus instead of finished products his macro posted 111111111111111111111 to guild chat over and over again.

Somehow his mouse got off the correct location for the buttons. The result is what was seen in the screen shots.

Evangel

And there you have it.

This thread should be in both RaR and the Farmer's Almanac.