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    Default Re: Denial of Service to plat-selling websites

    I think we all have learned from information in this post, and based on recent bona fide hacking attempts on this site, that all denial of service and other hacking attacks are illegal. Providing information about how to commit, soliciting, or promoting the commission of illegal acts is not permitted on this site, based on Site Rules.

    When this issue was first raised, it was brought up in an "eye for an eye" context. In my opinion, nobody intended to suggest that anyone commit any illegal acts, the nature and extent of the issue wasn't fully understood at that time, including by me.

    I'm therefore going to decline a suggestion I received to close this post for that reason. This post has promoted a good discussion and helped people understand that all hacking attacks are illegal, even when done against plat sellers or other people we don't like.

    If anyone *strongly* disagrees with the opinion I just gave, I'd be inclined to close this post so I don't have to spend a lot of time arguing about this.

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    Default Re: Denial of Service to plat-selling websites

    Why don't we just report the plat selling websites to the EQ2 people? There are hundreds out there that advertize selling the plat on more than just the exchange servers. Go directly to the source and nail them there. Then EQ2 could put up a sting operation and "order" the plat from those websites and start banning those accounts. Yeah, it'd take a bit of work, but it'd be worth it in the end. They could hire a temporary crew to do just this and nothing else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niber View Post
    Bad idea.

    Stay away from DoS. Many years ago (1999) I was in a 'hacking group' called "conflict", at around the time one of the first distributed denial of service clients (Trinoo) made by phifili came out, shortly thereafter many were visited by the FBI.

    Some of us got off better than others, quite a few did time in jail. Could only find two articles on my ex-scene members.. but.. you can get into REAL trouble.

    Mafiaboy: (complete idiot)

    http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,46791,00.html

    Shdwknight:

    http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cyberc...iekmanSent.htm

    As a side note, these events are what fueled me to start playing MMOs and the reason I have my current job. Trust me, all the plat farming website has to do is call their uplink and 99% of the time they have a direct link to the FBI who will be on you in seconds with a search warrant.
    Before you call anyone a complete idiot, make sure to call you're self a complete liar. Conflict had nothing to do with the creation of Trinoo. Trinoo was written by my friend phifli, who was apart of TNT. I never seen you on EFnet in my life, and i knew just about everybody there.
    I also asked raymond about you, and sadly enough the leader of conflict has no idea who you are.

    For the rest of the haters who are calling me an idiot, get a life. Neither of you have the balls or brains to pull it off. It's funny how it never happened again? Considering Yahoo administrators posted an atricle saying they are attempted to be shut down every hour, yet no one succeeded. Go figure.

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    Default Re: Denial of Service to plat-selling websites

    Amazing necro, this could shape up to be some fabulous nerd on nerd drama!! Waiting for the multi-account police to show up.

    /popcorn
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    Quote Originally Posted by mafiaboy View Post
    Before you call anyone a complete idiot, make sure to call you're self a complete liar. Conflict had nothing to do with the creation of Trinoo. Trinoo was written by my friend phifli, who was apart of TNT. I never seen you on EFnet in my life, and i knew just about everybody there.
    I also asked raymond about you, and sadly enough the leader of conflict has no idea who you are.

    For the rest of the haters who are calling me an idiot, get a life. Neither of you have the balls or brains to pull it off. It's funny how it never happened again? Considering Yahoo administrators posted an atricle saying they are attempted to be shut down every hour, yet no one succeeded. Go figure.
    Mafiaboy, you're a retard. You don't remember scornn? Anyway, I'm not going into details but I knew phif very well. And you and I both know you were only as good as Phifili and Str8's tools. You should be sharing a jail cell with Shdw not writing columns and you were definitely no genius.

    Oh, MB.. if you see phif, tell him the last game we played together forced me into retirement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haze View Post
    Wow, another efnet kidding, how ironic. I was good friends with rolex and the whole crew, dznutz, powder, warbux,wire but i never remember you niber! You must have come in a bit after Rolex got busted or someshit heh. Ahh the god old days having 30+ isolnet botnet's that were all carded. I actually still talk to Powder every now and then and she still holds #conflict ~.~
    I believe during those days I was in chrome with sinkhole, chlorine, bmx, bionic, bomb--- man, I cant remember everyone anymore. It's been what? 11? 13? Years?

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    Default Re: Denial of Service to plat-selling websites

    Lol, you keep using names but you you're self are a nobody. On the hacker map you are no where to be found. You know some hackers from EFnet, good job! Stop riding and name dropping k? You can low ball my skills and say i used str and phif's code all you want, it just proves you really know nothing. Anyways i didn't register here to justify my self, but you can keep ragging on the shit i did when i was 15. I just decided to respond to the load of bs you were spewing on this board. Conflict ? now chrome? please... you were just affiliated, never actually a member. I never seen you take 1 channel in my life, so stop fronting.


    Quote Originally Posted by Niber View Post
    Mafiaboy, you're a retard. You don't remember scornn? Anyway, I'm not going into details but I knew phif very well. And you and I both know you were only as good as Phifili and Str8's tools. You should be sharing a jail cell with Shdw not writing columns and you were definitely no genius.

    Oh, MB.. if you see phif, tell him the last game we played together forced me into retirement.

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    Default Re: Denial of Service to plat-selling websites

    You should have Phifli write your posts too. I could really care less about comparing epeens when we were both teenagers, but its obvious you never grew up. You don't remember me? Oh well, you were a nobody with a dosnet who made a stupid decision and got caught.

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    You should stop posing a life you never had. Keep dreaming

    Yea i remember you, as a nobody. Did i do something to dictate immaturity? You are the one calling people idiots with no foundation for you're facts. I simply responded to a post that you happened to write a bunch of bs in. I'm sorry you didn't anticipate someone like me to read what you wrote and bust up you're sharade. Either way if you had half a brain, you would know you can't get into TNT just because you had a dos net.

    Quote Originally Posted by Niber View Post
    You should have Phifli write your posts too. I could really care less about comparing epeens when we were both teenagers, but its obvious you never grew up.

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    Default Re: Denial of Service to plat-selling websites

    Yah, I dream of the day I can type ./mdos like you.. how did you do it?

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    TNT only took you because they knew you were a no-talent kid who would DoS whatever they said. You were a groupie who took the fall, lets get the facts straight.. because the REAL members of TNT never got their hands dirty.

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