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    Default NDA and moderation

    All trash talking aside, this is serious.

    I know that in the rules it does say that we aren't supposed to break NDA's here, and I know that's always been a very loosely followed rule. Typically only really bad and blatant violations are moderated.

    I am of the same mindset here, but the bar has been raised, since so much of the beta forums were publicly broadcast. I have no intention or desire to delete any postings unless they are posting seriously blatant violations, like screenshots, or extremely detailed stuff that was NOT broadcast publicly with the forum leak.

    How does that sound to you guys? I ask because the general gameplay section is almost certainly going to have some potentially serious leaks happening, with minor ones already starting.

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    Well, you aren't breaking an NDA if it's public information from the developers.

    Pretty sad that they screwed up that bad, even though they didn't manage to do that in the past, somehow ...

    Anyway, anything that seems a bit too blatant with screenshots/things of that nature, yeah no reason to not make it follow the rules. But bland things that people could easily find out, go for it.
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    Default Re: NDA and moderation

    Quote Originally Posted by Crabbok View Post
    since so much of the beta forums were publicly broadcast. I have no intention or desire to delete any postings unless they are posting seriously blatant violations, like screenshots, or extremely detailed stuff that was NOT broadcast publicly with the forum leak.
    The legal answer is:

    Anything now in the public domain because someone posted it somewhere else first is no longer confidential, and therefore is no longer subject to the NDA.

    If something is published on the Internet somewhere else, there is absolutely no problem if that exact same thing is also copied and published here, provided you can document the where else part.

    We are in the business here of not being responsible for original NDA violations, rather than trying to enforce someone's intellectual property rights where they have failed to protect them first.

    This is similar to the Wikileaks situation. As much saber rattling as the media and military have done, the guy responsible for sending all the top secret material to Wikileaks is the ONLY guy who has committed a crime. Julian Assange is not a criminal for receiving those files, reading them, and sending them to the New York Times. The New York Times has definitely not committed any crime by republishing those same materials.

    All I'm saying is this: If any material posted here was subject to a NDA but is merely being reposted or relinked from another publicly viewable source on the Internet, I cannot get in trouble if that information is reposted or relinked here, provided you have proof of the original source and can confirm the same material is publicly viewable there. The main question to ask here is this: Can LFG be sued, or does he risk law enforcement showing up at his door, if this material is posted here?

    If the answer is no, and the material is not graphic pornography, the N word, and does not violate any other site rule, let it be posted. If you have a question about a specific item, you can always email me at eq2flames@comcast.net.

    If SOE legal or any other person or entity disagrees with my ruling as to whether a specific item is allowed to be posted here, they can contact me and discuss the situation, just as they've done before. I'm a reasonable person, and make decisions based on the likelihood that something could cost me money or otherwise have a negative effect on my personal life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LFG View Post

    If something is published on the Internet somewhere else, there is absolutely no problem if that exact same thing is also copied and published here, provided you can document the where else part.
    And this is really the key. If someone uploads screenshots, or posts detailed information that they have not simply linked from some other place, then I consider that in violation of the sites rules. Like I said, there have been a few cases of this over the years but not too many. I just want to make sure we are on the same page before any mistakes are made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crabbok View Post
    And this is really the key. If someone uploads screenshots, or posts detailed information that they have not simply linked from some other place, then I consider that in violation of the sites rules. Like I said, there have been a few cases of this over the years but not too many. I just want to make sure we are on the same page before any mistakes are made.
    Yes, if it is just an uploaded screenshot that you know in your good judgement is most likely a NDA violation, you should edit that post to delete the screenshot.

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    Default Re: NDA and moderation

    tl;dr no illegal shit?

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