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By the rest of what you've posted, it doesn't sound like you're in a melee dps group that often. Your post makes it very clear that playstyles vary greatly within character classes and the "one man's trash = another man's treasure" adage comes into play.
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Thats true, I actually prefer the caster group to the melee dps group
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You don't need to put points into grasping thorns to get to the emergancy healing line. You can go across from Primal Spirit.
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You're right, wasn't paying attention to that at the time
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Also, "shouldn't" and what actually happens are worlds apart. Particularily when proxy/body pulls are so heavily used.
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I never have problems with proxy pulls, unless you have a tank who doesn't taunt, in which case, deagro will probably just get someone else killed, so bleh. Luckily I don't have that problem often, why I decided not to spend points there
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I use the deag regularily - particularily in instance groups - it's not just a deag, it's also an AE stifle on non-epics, and slows casters (epics too) by 56%. Might break the instant it's up, but it's still somethin.
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I actually rarely ever use it in instances either, then again, I guess most instances are so easy that, there's really no point unless I throw up vortex and over agro with nukes.... to which.... a decent tank should be able to still keep agro. I guess not going in many pickup groups has spoiled me, lol.
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ANYTHING that adds to a heal I am game for. I don't care if I'm "wasting" points to put into it - 10 points, 30 points, 50 points, 100 points...300 is nothing to sneeze at - it's sometimes the difference between dead and knocked out. I've bankrupted myself for the most part, between heal masters that add another couple hundred, and adornments that add 30 or 40.
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I've done the same thing with masters and adornments, well, not bankrupted myself, but I've gotten every master other than Urchin, Elddar's Grasp (since it was just added) and Bestial Feast (cuz I still refuse to pay 10pp for a spell I still see as worthless, and thats what its usually on broker for) I also have +150 to heals with adornments and my cloak, and contemplating whether to adorn my gloves with another +40 or add +25 to spells. I also have +50 to spells on my shield. Since we are both excellent healers and can do a good amount of dps, I like to balance myself out, as long as I'm not sacrificing much in heals. There are so many zones in the game where I'm needed to heal on the nameds, but trash is so easy that my heals are essentially worthless due to wards/reactives already being up. If on those fights I can put up 1500 dps instead of wasting mana to cast heals on a tank thats already topped off, then I'm optimizing my spot in the raid (even out dpsing some dps classes at times) for times when healing isnt really an issue. For those reasons, I have chosen to take Animal form and Energy Vortex and place AA in those lines to be able to maximize my DPS, as well as the groups I am in with the augments to Agitate and the extra INT on Primal Spirit. With the extra points, I could have went with emergency healing, but I chose to waste 3 in Bestial and take Hibernation, because the 10% trigger seemed to be a better "emergency" than the small bonus to a 15 min heal. If you use hibernation often (I always have it up.... as it will proc Infusion 6 times, once for everyone in the group, so if you went that line in KoS, Hibernation becomes a 1 second cast 1k ish nuke that also has the benefit of healing the group) it should prove more useful than emergency healing.