So how about those new aa's? - Page 2

serum321 · 09-23-2008, 06:27 PM

I use hibernate for aoe's all the time, time it to expire right after the ae goes off gives me more time to focus on cures and making sure the mt stays pegged.

Feithen · 09-23-2008, 07:00 PM

I think it seriously lacks utility - that's my core reason for thinking it's bullshit. I really, really, really wish we had more utility. Just one little itty bitty thing that would help our groups out, yano?

I honestly can't see the heals helping much, unless there's a major nerf coming to OLH (btw if that's the case, the new AA's rock, hah!). But tons and tons and tons of dps stuff? I guess I DID expect the moon.

Flica · 09-23-2008, 07:19 PM

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So, since yall like to bitch about hibernate that much, since when do we fucking use hibernate to heal our groups on ae? I dont know how you guys, but I throw a group regen up after an ae, and if OLH heal shit wasnt enough, I throw a group heal, that's it... everyones green.

I use Hibernation on AEs. As soon as the warning call hits I cast it, ticks off right after the damage and I follow up with my group burst heal, GREEN. In the time it takes you to start your group regen I have my group green and not skipping a beat on the parse because infusion ticked off twice.

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The only time I use hibernate is to proc infusion on trash and heals chokers.. so reducing duration means chokers gets healed more by hibernate and that the rest can be taken care off with str line or a single group heal instead of busting your ass to heal a brawler that just put knockout combination up or a troub/illu going nuts. ( We wont talk about the choker nerf here, sorry)

I used hibernate too. As well as Fae Immoliation (sp?), Group Burst heal, and group E-heal if its up. I don't see any advantage or disadvantage to this effect either way unless your solo healing Heroic content.

Why are you specced STR? Why not STA, SGI, and INT?

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next, yes, I do fucking rez, sometimes dirges and necros have something better to do.

ps: I do think it lacks utility, but I like the fact that we're getting hp boost on our lucidity

I also rez sometimes, I actually like the enhancements here. especially in VP since many of our strats would require a dirge or necro to traverse a large distance to get rezzes off. I would also prefer the HP gain off of Feral rather than Lucidity. I think they need to enhance our Armour of Nature since I only use that when I am solo healing heroic instances.

There are also a lot of people bitching on this thread as always. We play a pretty diverse role on raids, I don't really understand why people feel our class is useless.

Sioned · 09-23-2008, 07:22 PM

I did hear something about them nerfing OLH to 15m range? I'm pretty someone posted a dev said something to that effect at FF.

But yeah - utility would be nice so we are actually in the raid to do said dps.

serum321 · 09-23-2008, 07:25 PM

Yeah, the lack of utility is what made me say meh... about it. I guess SoE intends for furies to just be an all around mediocre class.

Really I feel bad for wardens, the least desired healer and it certainly doesn't look like TSO is changing that anytime soon.

Wildsea · 09-23-2008, 07:27 PM

Not sure why so many furies think the Master of Storms thingie isn't nice...

1. It can't really be compared with the Ring of Rage. I'm a bit sucky at math, but the Ring of Rage seems to make me heal 50% less and cast 50% slower.

Master of Storms on the other hand makes you cast 15% slower and heal 10% less. I bet you won't even notice it. Wear the robe from SoF or have a monk in your raid (yeah we don't roll with a monk here but I think most guilds do!). As for the 10% heal decrease, well personally I always overheal anyways. If you're that worried about the chokers, take the str line with Natural Boon, it actually helps

2. Well infusion isn't even close to 25% of my dps, unless I'm fighting Trakanon. It's more like 12% ish. And as said earlier, wear the robe from SoF and you won't notice your heals cast slower.

3. Since it adds 10% spell crit, you should be well over the cap with it and can probably take off a spell crit item and replace it with say... overloaded heals! Et voila, no more trouble healing!

4. Also, it's a buff. It can be cancelled if needed. You can even add a step to cancel it in your lifeburn macro if you need to.

That particular aa doesn't look bad at all to me, of course I haven't tested it but it seems easy enough to almost negate the penalties on it with a few pieces of gear.

Too bad we don't get any utility though

Fijiram · 09-23-2008, 07:29 PM

im not even gonna go in details about what flica said, its just sad

ffs, thinking hibernate triggers infusion once it lands and thinking agi is better than str

serum321 · 09-23-2008, 07:31 PM

All this talk about sof robe....won't it also be nerfed in this expac? Probably something like 8% cast speed instead of 10.

Fijiram · 09-23-2008, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by serum321

All this talk about sof robe....won't it also be nerfed in this expac? Probably something like 8% cast speed instead of 10.

forgot about the fucking robe
dont you think they will be nice beneficial haste items in the next expansion, or do you think they wont be any?

shit you can even forgot about the damn chest slot, it could be anything

we're using this as an example everyone can see

serum321 · 09-23-2008, 07:38 PM

Nah, I agree, just hopefully they won't all drop off of avatars. Just pointing out that since the sof robe is lvl 70 it won't be as potent if it does in fact fall under the tos nerf.