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Old 09-23-2008, 11:05 AM  
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Default So how about those new aa's?

The fury tree looks alright. Although I can't believe they are adding an aa to reduce the duration of hibernation. Why did they change the vp set just to put this shit back in again?

Druid tree is very lacking...also dissapointed we only get a 4% double attack yet clerics get a 5% flurry.
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Old 09-23-2008, 11:33 AM  
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Default Re: So how about those new aa's?

Peeps are already on beta? Or is that from the closed beta?
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Old 09-23-2008, 11:48 AM  
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I'm not in beta, see under general forums thread titled something like Whats a NDA?
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Old 09-23-2008, 12:51 PM  
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On first glance...


Feeble Minded - Junk, debuffs that increase raid dps are more useful than ones that decrease mob dps, and I refuse to believe Int debuffing isn't already capped.

Hunters Call - Junk, necros/dirges should be doing most of the rezzing, they're the ones who benefit from rez AAs.

Essence of the Stormcaller - Very good if it includes infusion, otherwise not awful.

Natural Restoration - Good only if raid mobs have massive AEs.

Faydark's Elixir - Junk, since return to the pack is really our emergency heal

Hibernating Spirit - Junk, same reason hibernation set bonus was, and no lessons learned, but not as bad as...

Master of Storms - We complained that the Ring of Rage effect was useless because we need to cast beneficial spells quickly to dps with infusion. Abilities that increase spell damage but also increase beneficial cast time typically reduce our damage output. There's no problem with reducing heal amount with energy-vortex type abilities, but increasing cast time on beneficial spells is a dps penalty that can easily offset any gains. I really wish whoever designed this AA tree and the Ring of Rage could get that through their skull. You're gonna need massed reuse speed gear - and probably TC - to DPS effectively with this AA in its current form.

Natures Ferocity - Would seem extremely good for solo healing a group on a tough named. Limited raid use unless it turns out so overpowered we replace Wardens in the MT group.
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Old 09-23-2008, 01:29 PM  
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Default Re: So how about those new aa's?

"Complete fucking horseshit" were the first words that came to mind, tbh.

The retarded Hibernate nerf coming back AGAIN just shows nobody on the dev team plays a fury. Why the fuck would they give us this ability, have us shout it down as a nerf, change it, then implement it AGAIN?

Complete fucking horseshit. No question. Let's hope a fury gets in beta and tells them why.
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Old 09-23-2008, 02:16 PM  
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Yeah, I was glancing over it quickly at work and didn't notice the inc beneficial spell cast time with the offensive stance I do like the idea of dps/heal stances, but dps stance needs to be changed for the reason already pointed out.

The rez aa is our group rez, so when maxxed it'll rez with 45% health/power and only have a 2s cast time, not too shabby.
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Old 09-23-2008, 04:24 PM  
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wow garbage....
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Old 09-23-2008, 04:30 PM  
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And all healers get a 24 man rez with 100% health/power too so finally there will be a reason to take us on raids.

"OMG please come on the raid we need you."

Get to the raid.

"Ok now disband and wait there til we wipe."
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Old 09-23-2008, 05:22 PM  
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Master of Storms - We complained that the Ring of Rage effect was useless because we need to cast beneficial spells quickly to dps with infusion. Abilities that increase spell damage but also increase beneficial cast time typically reduce our damage output. There's no problem with reducing heal amount with energy-vortex type abilities, but increasing cast time on beneficial spells is a dps penalty that can easily offset any gains. I really wish whoever designed this AA tree and the Ring of Rage could get that through their skull. You're gonna need massed reuse speed gear - and probably TC - to DPS effectively with this AA in its current form.

i think you said it best, this is going to be a huge annoyance to deal with, i like the idea of a stance that adds base damage but takes away from 25% of our overall dps... hope this changes before the new expansion goes live
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Old 09-23-2008, 05:33 PM  
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Default Re: So how about those new aa's?

You guys really make me laugh on that one.. complete fucking horseshit uh?

The only flaws I see in there is utility, come the fuck on.

First off, numbers :




So, since yall like to bitch about hibernate that much, since when do we fucking use hibernate to heal our groups on ae? I dont know how you guys, but I throw a group regen up after an ae, and if OLH heal shit wasnt enough, I throw a group heal, that's it... everyones green.

The only time I use hibernate is to proc infusion on trash and heals chokers.. so reducing duration means chokers gets healed more by hibernate and that the rest can be taken care off with str line or a single group heal instead of busting your ass to heal a brawler that just put knockout combination up or a troub/illu going nuts. ( We wont talk about the choker nerf here, sorry)

next, yes, I do fucking rez, sometimes dirges and necros have something better to do.

Master of storms : are you guys that fucking dumb? You're getting 15% casting speed, 10% base and 10% more crit ( like warlock I believe ) , and you still find a way to bitch? Do you not bellieve in beneficial haste or SoF-like robe in the next expansion? Shit, give me everything on that list right now im putting nagol's treasure and crimson robe on and fuck whatever im wearing ( except you taiz and that other guy from naggy :P ) .

Maybe im exagerating, but what do you guys expect? the damn moon?

ps: I do think it lacks utility, but I like the fact that we're getting hp boost on our lucidity
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