Ridiculous

I'd suggest that you NOT rank out your two DOT's if you indeed have them ranked out to five. Ultimately this will lessen your DPS moreso than enhance it, considering both DOT's are reasonably fast casting from the start.

You're waiting moreso on a reuse timer with no actual DOT ticking, I can't remember the actual seconds you're waiting, but it's a good chunk of time to be sitting there with no Dmg overrall.

Some Fury's like to use CoK to toggle in and out of while waiting on the reuse timers of other spells, which isn't really that smart since chances are the first few hits get resisted regardless of the enhancements in your AA lines and by the time you get one hit off, your spells are back up. It's much easier to proc Infusion and accumulates the same amount of Dmg, if not more.

Like AJ said, Infusion, depending on certain circumstances, can be the majority of your DPS or quite a good chunk of it. Using quick casting Beneficiaries, like Hibernate, Untamed and Fae Immolation is a decent way to proc Infusion while waiting on the reuse timer of your hostile spells.

I'd also suggest that you use Fae Immolation prior to an AA Melee CA (examples are those that are in the STR, INT, WIS lines) to actually use the spell for its value moreso than just the mere intentions of proccing Infusion.

So if you indeed do have AA Pts in CoK, I'd suggest that you take them out.

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Vaux

Your logic there is completely flawed.

It is impossible for AAs spent on these abilities to decrease DPS. Saying the spells cast fast already is like a Wizard saying Fission hits hard already so there's no need to get it at M1. Faster casting = more dps. Faster DoT ticks = more DPS (since you get more ticks before overwriting).

Look at it this way - first tick of swarm does about ~2k with decent spell mod and debuffs in. If that's with 1s cast speed with no AAs in swarm you just did 2kdps. If it's with 0.5s cast speed you just did 4kdps.

You might not get great returns on swarm if you have a lot of cast speed already, but maxing these two AAs is still a heck of a lot better as an option than many other abilities in the Fury tree when it comes to increasing DPS, particularly bearing in mind you need 20AAs in energy and the way the tree is structured.

AricaJade

actually putting more than 3 in typhoon ends up makin u wait for the recast & leaves a longer period of time that it's not ticking on the mob. max out swarm, just dont put more than 3 points in typhoon, otherwise ur losing out on easy dps.

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Ridiculous

Agreed w/ AJ, though I have 3 on both my DOT's because like I said before -- they're relatively fast casting as it is. If I truly am that worried about cast time on those two DOT's in particular, I can accommodate by fixed number gear ie. Crimson Robe of Alendine.

And another thing, "Faster casting = more dps. Faster DoT ticks = more DPS (since you get more ticks before overwriting)..." Faster DOT ticks with a lessened duration and increased reuse timer (this comment being generalized moreso towards Typhoon)? You tell me that isn't a significant loss in DPS. Like I said before, if I really am THAT worried about my cast spd. on these two particular DOT's...I'll just settle for fixed casting spd. stats on gear.

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Cypriss shouts, 'can i get a loot and scoot?'

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Jazam tells you, 'Could u allow me to lns?'
Jomoma tells you, 'can i lns'

Selkee

Really great advice from everyone! I've increased my dps thanks to everyone's tips, but am still having the dps difference when autoattack is on vs. autoattack off... It's obviously something I'm doing so I'm going to go hit up the training wall in KJ to try and figure it out.

The dps side of fury-lovin is still new to me; I converted from strickly heals to now trying to dps. It certainly has kept things from getting stale!

Taiz

Are you guys high?


At no point and I mean no point do you lose dps from maxing out those abilities... If anything you *MAYBE* waste a couple AA...

Even if your overwriting one or 2 ticks, you're making up for it by hitting for 3 to 4 times that tick would have hit for with the initial hit, also procs and temp buffs like FG will up it more... Not to mention there are reuse items in the game and unrest cloak is still a pretty fucking beefy item even with RoK cloaks for dps...

Fijiram

Ive always felt like the frontload and procs you get from it overwrites the dmg you might get by letting it ticks and slower casting speed, but i never did any maths

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kahonen

Thanks again for all of the help guys.

I'm still working on it but have already made some improvements

Vaux

Increasing the speed at which the DoTs tick has no effect on the reuse time. That's what you're failing to understand.

Vaux

And yeah this is correct, you should be casting both DoTs immediately when they're up and not worrying about overwriting them. The obvious advantage of faster ticks is you'll get more damage in before the overwrite - admittedly you're not gonna be casting typhoon quick enough to need more than 3 AAs, but the cast speed boost from investing 5 is gonna help your DPS more than putting those 2 AAs in, for example, call of karana.