boli

Heh, yeah that's the worst thing about DPSing as a fury... you can never go "full out" too often. With often two necros in my group I'm stoping to heal the buggers up for Lifeburn. but I would give you some advice:

If you can melee on a mob drop the grizz mace and get a good Two Hander and just toggle autoattack. That will net you more dps than the grizz procs and as long as the delay is long enough you get most of your swings in and never interupt your spell casting. Pride's Edge (fabled 2Hander from Deathtoll) seems to be perfect for the delay for spirt engored flail (legendary drop in bonemire) is a close second - ideally 2-3s delay is perfect.

If you are going to cast ring opf flames do so at the beginning.. ideally when you are toggling on autoattack; it isn't worth casting it mid fight. you get more dps keeping to other spells.

Next when you get your troub back; spam like crazy in Maestro but do NOT use the group heals (for infusion) - use the irritating swarm (group debuff - I use the level 45 one ) instead Maestro won't proc orff a proc but it would proc off your irritating swarm and turn it into an AoE nuke :-).

Plus give Vim to your Troub; the procs work off their intelligence so giving them more is only going to help the raid and your dps in particular. at least I'm pretty sure it does... they keep changing this :/.

As for dispatches... if you have two brigs in the raid ignore the dispatch messages- it'll be up most of the time so just go full out all the time. If you only have one brigand try and time your vortex to dispatch and you'll start to see those 8-10k thunderbolts coming in. I've never hit 10k myself but I'm getting there .

I only see one master smite... try and get all your L&L finished and bascially use it as another nuke it hits for a fairly decent amount as well as working as a conduit to proc all your gear Infusion may be great to use but it won't proc anythgin as it is already a proc already so its best to use a damage spell than infusion.

Your crits do look a bit low but you're missing your troub so all depends what it is like when you get back. I think I run with 45% spell crits in the raid and it does show

Lastly if you're not casting you're loosing dps so spam spam spam. sometimes when everything is on recharge I fire of Thermal Shocker... and have seen that crit for 700+ each

Anyways... that's my advice. if you take anythgin from that try it out I can maintain about 1.2k-1.7k when I can go full out with infusion toggled on. Obviously it drops rapidly when I have you.... you know.... heal :P

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Widem

fuck u cal i was gonna adress the entire post when i got home. same thing with fae pyre though...your own int does not govern the proc for everyone else.

Konrad

Widem... I was going to ask you about a lot of things in that guys post... cuz it didnt quite sound right to me. Guess now I don't have to :D

Konrad

Parse from tonight's quite successful EH raid...


I know what you guys might be thinking, ya it's pretty low. But heres the deal, it was our first time clearing the first floor, and we killed 2 of the named on the second floor. I give props to us because we really tried hard and did quite well. I'm sure the next time will be better

Anyways, on trash mobs, I was about 90% of the time at around 1.6k to 2.2k EASILY. So I know I can dps pretty well, but for many of the named that we tried for the first time, I solely healed in fear of what was to come :D

I also healed 14% of the ZW, 4th of 7 (missed 3rd by 1000). Total healed was 829,167

Not sure if theres really much to comment on... just showing my progression for any that want to know ;P

Your feedback is always appreciated.

boli

Heh... I said I was unsure on that part; who ever get vim depends more on how many conc slots i have left nortmally however troub hardly ever gets it. stand by the other things tho; or at the very least they've all helped me.

Widem

yeah sometimes parses are going to be lower b/c of what named fight is up or whatever. if u wanna track your own improvment in the dfferent situations just delete encounters then u can see where you stand and how much one encounter is effecting you and then try to possibly improve it in some way or another.

@boli

you used the term "full out" which i would assume you mean full out dps, which yes you have to keep your group alive, but i really dont like to think of it that way. I think of it as always being full out playing your class where at any given instance you are making a choice based on your ability or skill level to apply your assets as a fury to the raid. I am thinking about healing 100% of the time, but the goal of my clicking is dps just about 90% of the time. I guess what im trying to say is dont ever be idle. Don't sit and wait for a hit to take place to heal it. Throw some shit out then react to the circumstance.

As for prides edge. I am very lucky in the fact i get many options for gear in just about whatever cirumstance i want. At this point there are even better weapons than prides edge like the knotty pine and even the enchanted grove scimmy. in all of my parses even with str line i never saw any reason whatsover to use that over other stuff i had.

some of the things you are missing out on that people dont realize isnt only the proc on the item itself but if i were to use prides edge id also be missing on 2% crits which come from adornments that anyone can get so its univesral for furies.

with that being said if you have a very shitty shield/secondary and weapon im sure these items would be an upgrade, but there are numerous other better ways to apply gear to those locations.

I will say if you have found some way to get substantial dps from using melee i would love to see it because i simply cant figure it out and that would be pretty kewl to know. I'd love to see a parse and telling us what kind of mods/specs u have and on what slots with what gear.

With the maddening swarm line and precision...there are some other items that need to be taken into account. and just for the example i will use sparty's parse b/c imo he would be wearing what we would call an "average fury's gear" no offense bro.
infusion is averageing 333damage a hit = 1998 in 1 spell being cast.
Potm is averaging 650 a hit which is = 650 per mob in encounter so with 3 thats 1950

now the two wildcards here are swarm being able to proc other procs and the fact it has a longer casting timer than the spells that proc infusion.

at this point it becomes completely situational b/c for me having a retarded amount of procing gear i would be apt to use swarm whereas someone from sparty's walk of life will probably want to use hibernate then throw down another quick shriek or a damage spell for sure if one is up at that point.

but in summation 2 mobs use infusion, 3mobs its situational, 4 mobs swarm for sure

just a couple other things i swear to god i think the fury 10k hit is an urban legend ive gotten close like 9600s but never 10k has anyone ever legitamately gotten 10k thunderbolt?

heh and this might be late because this is getting changed but thinking about how your spell crits are low did you know that if you apply a shapeshift buff you can switch weapons without the modifier changing? like i will equip a hammer get my spell crit then switch to a staff of light. and kep the spell crit. but thats being changed on wed so kinda pointless info now.

Konrad

My spell crit is only 38%... I dont really have the money at the moment after a few of the purchases I have made, so adornments atm are a little out of the question. I do however use the 4% potions whenever I can

I don't take offense to the comment about my gear I know I have a long ways to go to be "well" geared... I still don't think I'm that poor off though. I would say that while doing this zone I didn't know what to expect whatsoever, so I was way more worried about healing than I was DPS... But from the previous run through this zone I did 2x more dps (so in a way I'm improving).

When I get the money I'll try to get adornments for spell crits and whatnot, but like I said, thats a ways off until i get some plat.

Mojitin

I haven't broke 10k, very close just like you but never 10k. If anyone has ever broken that mark I want to see a screenshot, not a parse, a REAL screenshot.

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boli

When I say: Full out I mean throw a few heals the MT way - fire hibernation then then hit Vortex and start unloading everything I have. (only interupted by lifeburn); this is how I can do 90% of our raids bar a few fights where damage shields, overnuking mages and AoE meaning I have to keep a much closer eye on my group. Its annoying as of late I'm sorting out the dkp and loot so I'm perma distracted right now and haven't had chance to stratch my legs for a while:'(

I've done 9.8k on a fluke once (9801 or something stupid)... but never... NEVER broken 10k and I'm always scouring the parse after the raid to see if I broke it; the big nukes tend to come under the named mobs where everyone has all their debuffs on the mob (dispatch -magic debuff and full wisdom debuffs); and I'm fast comeing to the conclusion like you a fury will never hit it a 10k thunderbolt till T8.

Re: Pride's Edge I just toggle autoattack on and go to town with spells it has the 3% chance to hit surrounding mobs adornment on it I dont know how much that helps; but since I only have Grizz's mace that auto attack damage + procs is *slightly* less than the autoattack from Prides. Its HIGHLY situational and I'm only still using it as ... well I don't have any better yet :/ Stuff for my ikkl fury hasn't been dropping just a LOT of brawler gear (well on the up side I have a fully fabled soloing set :P)