Originally Posted by oddyophile

Are we going to get leet Disso strats for Mayong now after I tell you?

Originally Posted by razieh

Depends are you going to send me a PM asking what you are doing wrong and how to fix it? I was rather pissed how you talked shit, after your guild asked me for help.

Originally Posted by oddyophile

Are we going to get leet Disso strats for Mayong now after I tell you?

Originally Posted by Widem

or i might point out the obvious yet again...the truth is your fucking dumb and shows what quality a player you are. maybe if you would think about whats going on you might be able to find other avenues that are way more efficient and a shitton faster

Originally Posted by oddyophile

Talk to people who have played with me about the quality of player I am. Until you get a chance to see me in action, you're just making noise and throwing shit.

Originally Posted by Widem

theres a point where spamming buttons isnt going to win you the encounter...you got lucky that you fucked up on a mob that has already been nerfed into oblivion. everyone has friends that will tell me how good they think you are but all they really know is how good you are compared to what they have.

this has nothing to do with your raw clicking ability, but at a certain point you have to realize there is more to being good than that and to build upon it.

what you did was, without any understanding of what was happening, made a post on how something was to much to handle and then after being repeatedly told by people who did know how you were incorrect you were to stubborn to realize otherwise. this game has had some very bad changes over the past 6months and finally a good one takes place and as far as im concerned its b/c of people like you that are ruining the game for people. id expect to see shit like that on an SOE board, not here.

Originally Posted by oddyophile

I don't come up with the strats douchebag, I heal through them, and I'm damn good at what I do.

Originally Posted by razieh

You don't come up with the strats? At least try not to be a moron and make the fight 10x harder for your guild then!! As far as attacking other people comments were made to them and they weren't just repeating the same bullshit over and over like you guys were. Try having an actual reason to get these changes made then come back to the conversation.

Originally Posted by oddyophile

Not that it matters. You like the changes, fine. We don't. There are others that don't as well. Cry all you want about how "nothing has changed," I'm telling you it has. Like Stoic said, curing is not healing, and now I'm spending more time doing that and less warding/debuffing the mob. Healers that were given combat art skills and bonuses are seeing those skills wasted because they have to spend more time curing. The aa cure trees seem to be broken or worthless, so the points in either the combat art trees or the cure trees are now a total waste. Changes to the curing system should be teamed up with changes to our cure spells or aa abilities to compensate. Or abilities should have been given to other classes to give them more resistability or chances to avoid curable effects.

But no. No other classes were asked to adjust to this new change. All the pressure is put on the healers to keep up with this. Can people do it? Sure they can. We suck, and we still managed to take down Hate through the changes. It wasn't fun, though, and there's no point in playing a video game if it isn't fun.

Originally Posted by oddyophile

Not every guild out there is Dissolution, and not every encounter is going to be a cakewalk. Fpr some people this change turns something fun to do on a Saturday night into a chore, and who needs more of that? Healers always had something to do on raids. If you weren't warding/using HoTs/casting reactives, you could debuff, cure, and still find time to do something fun like run in and melee (using those melee skills you are almost forced to take becuase all your other aa choices are worhtless). Now you have to spend your time playing whack-a-mole on the cures while 22 of your aa go to waste, and a big chunk of the fun you had playing your class goes out the window.

Meanwhile scouts are running in and autoattacking while watching porn in the background, and then yelling at the healers that they're stunned or died because they didn't get cured in time. Yay! Being a healer now officially rocks.

Originally Posted by oddyophile

Curing an entire raid with one cure is overpowered, but being able to dispell a group effect with one cure makes sense. Like several people have said now, the EoF encounters were designed with this curing in mind. If we're going to change this aspect of the encounters they should change the tools we have to deal with them.

Originally Posted by oddyophile

Tell that to a mystic. Which should they take, the rez line (which is worthless for any competent raid guild that doesn't need their whole guild rezzed and/or has a dirge), or the cure achievements which are broken and worthless. Their only other option is the combat arts line, but they shouldn't take those because they are raid healers and they shouldn't be dps'ing. Well fuck, maybe we should just let those achievement points sit in the pool, because they can't improve healing at all.

Originally Posted by oddyophile

We adapted and overcame, but we aren't happy about it. Our healers were having fun playing our classes, and now we get to cure! Constantly! Weeeeee! I am so looking forward to playing the game now because I get to strategize my cures! Wow, it sure does add depth and complexity that the game needed. I hope the dps and tank classes appreciate how much more fun I'm having then them now while they stand there auto-attacking and yawning. Yay for us!

Originally Posted by oddyophile

Wait, so you haven't done Hate since the change, but you know it hasn't changed much? How stupid are you?

Not that it matters. You like the changes, fine. We don't. There are others that don't as well. Cry all you want about how "nothing has changed," I'm telling you it has. Like Stoic said, curing is not healing, and now I'm spending more time doing that and less warding/debuffing the mob. Healers that were given combat art skills and bonuses are seeing those skills wasted because they have to spend more time curing. The aa cure trees seem to be broken or worthless, so the points in either the combat art trees or the cure trees are now a total waste. Changes to the curing system should be teamed up with changes to our cure spells or aa abilities to compensate. Or abilities should have been given to other classes to give them more resistability or chances to avoid curable effects.

But no. No other classes were asked to adjust to this new change. All the pressure is put on the healers to keep up with this. Can people do it? Sure they can. We suck, and we still managed to take down Hate through the changes. It wasn't fun, though, and there's no point in playing a video game if it isn't fun.

Originally Posted by oddyophile

I went over that in my previous posts. The adds are group stunning the MT group when they run to us, stacking arcane and elemental effects along with the damage shield. Maybe you guys are able to pick up the adds faster due to your OT response time, or your positioning. It wasn't happening every time, but often enough that the OT healers were spending a lot of time curing the MT group. I'm not sure what was triggering Hate's damage shield so often but the MT group (including the Templar) was getting hit with stuns constantly. The templar can't group arcane cure when he's stunned, and I can't unstun him when a) my stun break is down because I just used it 10 seconds before, b)he's got 2 arcane effects and an elemental stacked because we can't cure that many effects while trying to ward and heal the tank.

Not every guild out there is Dissolution, and not every encounter is going to be a cakewalk. Fpr some people this change turns something fun to do on a Saturday night into a chore, and who needs more of that? Healers always had something to do on raids. If you weren't warding/using HoTs/casting reactives, you could debuff, cure, and still find time to do something fun like run in and melee (using those melee skills you are almost forced to take becuase all your other aa choices are worhtless). Now you have to spend your time playing whack-a-mole on the cures while 22 of your aa go to waste, and a big chunk of the fun you had playing your class goes out the window.

Meanwhile scouts are running in and autoattacking while watching porn in the background, and then yelling at the healers that they're stunned or died because they didn't get cured in time. Yay! Being a healer now officially rocks.

Originally Posted by oddyophile

The ae stuns/stifles from the adds could be cured group wide with one arcane/elemental cure before the change. The MT group is hit with those since the adds often go straight for the MT healers, and with adds, Hateful Feedback, and Hate's Blinding it makes things more than just "challenging."

Curing an entire raid with one cure is overpowered, but being able to dispell a group effect with one cure makes sense. Like several people have said now, the EoF encounters were designed with this curing in mind. If we're going to change this aspect of the encounters they should change the tools we have to deal with them.

Originally Posted by oddyophile

Tell that to a mystic. Which should they take, the rez line (which is worthless for any competent raid guild that doesn't need their whole guild rezzed and/or has a dirge), or the cure achievements which are broken and worthless. Their only other option is the combat arts line, but they shouldn't take those because they are raid healers and they shouldn't be dps'ing. Well fuck, maybe we should just let those achievement points sit in the pool, because they can't improve healing at all.

Originally Posted by oddyophile

We adapted and overcame, but we aren't happy about it. Our healers were having fun playing our classes, and now we get to cure! Constantly! Weeeeee! I am so looking forward to playing the game now because I get to strategize my cures! Wow, it sure does add depth and complexity that the game needed. I hope the dps and tank classes appreciate how much more fun I'm having then them now while they stand there auto-attacking and yawning. Yay for us!