Trying to maximize personal DPS after mainly healing - Page 9

oddyophile · 07-05-2007, 04:47 PM

Wow, that is creative paraphrasing there Razieh. Do they pay you for that bullshit, beacuse they really should.

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Originally Posted by razieh

Ashmoria says "Now you have to cure alot and its bullshit, scouts mages and tanks don't have to cure this is to much work!"
Mages can cure arcane as well as use cure pots, tell your scouts and mages to have them ready to go to help you if the work is to much for you!

Ashmoria says "Now you have to cure a lot and its bullshit, scouts mages and tanks don't have to cure this is to much work!"
This is just beginning to prove my point you are complaining about the same point over and over again! tell your members to carry cure pots, hell even I carry cure arcane & noxious pots.

This is a great example of that creative paraphrasing, but it is a good idea. Our scouts and tanks have already picked up on it, and they're carrying a lot of assorted potions now.

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Ashmoria says "Now you have to cure a lot and its bullshit, encounters weren't designed with this in mind obviously I know because I'm a dev!"
This argument is a little different but its completely flawed, if encounters were designed around the raid being cured with one cure why was it changed? why do we have group cures? whats the point of healers having cures everyone could use cure pots and cure the raid?

This was an argument mentioned several times in the thread, which you would know if you'd actually read it instead of just looking for people to flame. This kind of curing has been in the game for a long time, and made it through several rounds of beta testing. If it had not been intended, it had gone unchanged long enough to make it look that way.

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This is a completely irrelevant argument about spending your AAs on healing. So if we break this down to the simplest level it comes out to be "I shouldn't have to change my AAs to heal more because we cant deal with the cure change" which as you can see is a stupid argument.

This is an argument that the tools classes have been given for curing are not worth a damn, and if they're going to change what we have to cure it should be paired with working tools to deal with the changes.

I get it Razieh, people can overcome the changes. For some it's not a big deal, and for some it's not what we wanted to be doing in the game. It's not fun, and that's important because this is a game. Anytime you want to stop making this a chance to belittle and insult another player you should, because it's stupid and tiresome.

razieh · 07-05-2007, 04:59 PM

Its not creative paraphrasing at all, nice try at spinning though!!

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Originally Posted by oddyophile

This was an argument mentioned several times in the thread, which you would know if you'd actually read it instead of just looking for people to flame. This kind of curing has been in the game for a long time, and made it through several rounds of beta testing. If it had not been intended, it had gone unchanged long enough to make it look that way.

When did I argue that you weren't saying this? Seriously you assume way to much, just to prove you wrong again. There have been tons of bugs that made it to live Tarinax for example how long was he broken? Obviously he was meant to be that way!!

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Originally Posted by oddyophile

I get it Razieh, people can overcome the changes. For some it's not a big deal, and for some it's not what we wanted to be doing in the game. It's not fun, and that's important because this is a game. Anytime you want to stop making this a chance to belittle and insult another player you should, because it's stupid and tiresome.

Look you are just proving my argument right again that it was just you bitching, cures were not changed in such a major way that it unbalanced the game in any way.

Konrad · 07-06-2007, 09:44 PM

Holy fuckin shit! I havent checked this thread in ages, because A

I've learned enough already, B

I just need to get better gear, and C

My dps is in relation to the overall raid.

Way to go off and derail it. Quite interesting conversation though. Razieh... <3 u lots... Widem... <3 u lots too

Fijiram · 07-06-2007, 11:19 PM

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I haven't broke 10k, very close just like you but never 10k. If anyone has ever broken that mark I want to see a screenshot, not a parse, a REAL screenshot.

Well , played around with max hit gear and there it is... sorry i couldnt get a screenshot..

Konrad · 07-08-2007, 03:26 PM

NOOOOOOOOOO... Slixia is gonna ban me now

But I'm glad my thread is the most popular one on the fury boards :D

Mojitin · 07-08-2007, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Fijiram

Well , played around with max hit gear and there it is... sorry i couldnt get a screenshot..

That owns! At least I know it can happen, thanks. I moved my discussion to the sticky thread btw.

Widem · 07-09-2007, 11:56 AM

yeah real kewl...just out of curiosity how much up to do you have?

because calaglin did some testing about where up to damage actually is calculated and its actually after the crit, which is weak imo, but ill try and have it make more sense.

when u put on up to gear lets just say plus 50 and lets also assume it actually adds 50

so you go from exactly 1000damage to 1050 on your spell damage.

when you crit instead of criting from the 1050+1-1050*1.35 it calculates it at
((1000+1)+50) through ((1000*1.35)+50)

which in this specific scenerio is the difference betwen an average of 1234.25 and 1225.5

the whole point of that is from what ive seen is that even though up to bonus are already pretty minimal you dont even get a synergetic bonus from having a good mix of crit and up to gear which i think is pretty gay.

Fijiram · 07-09-2007, 08:58 PM

My high end for Thunberbolt was somewhere at 3600 ish.. I took everything i had to up the damage on my spells.. soulfire staff.. malkonis's head neck + 25dmg adorn .. buckler of blight .. fitz off hand ... manaburst glove + 25dmg adorn.. blessed direwood mantle .. even the thunberbolt relic bp bonus.. earring and wrist from vampiric quest line ( like +50 with both i think ) .. also wrist from FTH trash +35dmg.. and rest was just max int.. i had around 900 i think.

boli · 07-10-2007, 07:08 AM

Add vortex, a troubs debuffs, and dispatch to that with ~ 45% spell crits and you'll easily hit 7-8k regually.

Fijiram · 07-10-2007, 02:02 PM

Not sure if hes replying to me but yes I used everything you mentionned if I did hit 10k.
I thought it was pretty obvious.

Now I'd like to see a 10k without using vortex... hummm...

lol?