Konrad

Hey guys, I've recently been trying to DPS with my fury and not so much heal outside my group. I used to be specced for the HOT speed increase as well as heal crits because all I found myself doing was healing other groups. I respecced now to the INT line instead of heal crits and I've been trying to refine my dps. Here is a picture of my parse from DT... I'd love to hear some comments on it, and what spells I shouldnt be using so much, what ones to use more (you know what I mean).



I do not have the best "proc" gear, but I find that my gear is pretty decent. I've been using the planar orb of the healer and wanderer, as well as grizzlefazzles for procs. Basically I've been using everything that procs, just to see how high I could get my dps. I was wondering if BCG would be worth doing for the extra mit debuff and proc dmg? Anything you guys could comment on would help me a ton.

I've been playing a Shadowknight for 2.5 years, and late February I started this fury. So I'm just trying to figure out how I can get the most out of it. I also get the feeling of being really stressed out when I DPS as a healer during raids and trying to keep my group alive (although they don't get hit that much). Should I be feeling this way? Is it a feeling that tells me that I'm really trying too hard to dps? Anyways, lemme know what you guys think.

Widem

stressing out is a good thing...it means your alert and still paying attention to your primary role.

BCG is the best dps belt item in game so for dps purpose yes you want that belt.

what is your normal group setup, this will have major implications for ability.

do you have 100AA?

another thing to remember when looking at your parse is to use "all outgoing damage" because as you can see, the way it shows here, it adds how much you have been healing into the mix as well.

Konrad

Bah... My bad... Here is the new parse (seeing as how I cannot edit my own post?)



My group setup is usually this: Me, 2x Conjuror, Necromancer, Wizard and Troubador. Sometimes instead of the second conjuror theres a melee class (I think... it's been a while

I do have 100AAs, Specced 4-4-4-8-1 down AGI and 6-4-8-7-1 down INT
As for the EOF Tree...

5-x-3-5
5-5-5-x-x-5-5
x-5-x-x-x-5-x-x
x- x- x
Animal form and Vortex I hope that makes sense... Didn't really feel like typing out the ability names.

Also, I have M1s for everything except Ring of Fire, Primal Spirit and Starnova

Widem

just some random things to take note of...im not sure how your group is buffed but realistically with that setup agitate for 1 is getting completely wasted...if you look at yourself about 10dps of your zone wide is coming from str governed dps so by giving yourself agitate that would give you maybe 5 more dps...giving to the troub sucks b/c PoTM dazes him so he wont be getting the full effect so really that buff is more like a whatever.

Your in the dps group with all int casters so thats what your going to do. drop mit buff and drop hp/resist buff...throw up int/wis buff and hand out 4 vims.

now here is where people are going to bitch, necros should get the last priority on vim...people look at it for the increase in int that it gives but thats not the only part of the buff. it also adds close to 800power. Summoners are always last priority on power so under all circumstances give it to wiz/warlock, yourself, summoners, scouts. the reason the necro gets the shaft on this is b/c even though a conjurer shouldnt really be having power issues there is no way in hell a necro should be.

now as far as a problem with your dps lets take a look just at thunderbolt b/c its the easiest to figure out b/c ticks wont be cut off or anything...you cast it 120 times in an hour an one minute. this equates to 1.96 casts a minute. you should be able to cast this close 4x in a minute and realistically even with healing 3 a minute is completely reasonable.

one more thing, if im reading your AA selection correctly b/c its in kinda weird format, you have 5 points in tempest...the max efficiency for the spell is 3 b/c at that point you can go to your next AA selection and making the duration any faster would be pointless b/c you wouldnt be able to cast the spell any sooner.

another thing is your crits seem a little low...what is your crit chance?

it seems you just need to cast more really...try and really keep an eye on your spells and get a good feeling for a rotation...if your worried about health just move the group bar by your spells, after all they are just an f-key away from a heal and spells can always be cancelled

Edit-Proofreading is good. I decided to look at another parse i had posted in http://www.eq2flames.com/vbimghost.p...yimg&imgid=302
here you can see i cast thunderbolt about 4.66 times in a minute when compared to you 1.96...i did 1687dps whereas you did like 715
715/1687=.42
1.96/4.66=.42

now isnt that just amazing?

Konrad

Could you post your EOF AA tree? I want to give your setup a try just to see if it will help out a bit. My spell crit chance atm is 38%, but I carry tons of the +4%heal and spell crit potions on me.

I only put up primal spirit and 4 vims for my concentrations as you said. I will start giving myself Vim instead of the necro and see how that plays out. As for agitate, I guess theres not really much I can do about that. How do you end up doing sooooo much more damage with Infusive wrath than anything else you use (according to your parse on the direwood thread)?

I will try and post my parse from the raid this Friday, and hopefully your suggestions and my hunt for proc gear will end up raising my DPS a decent amount.

Widem

check my edit b/c it perfectly explains it, but it comes down to just constantly casting...with infusion up every heal is damage...if you cast a group heal it will proc 6 times so if you have to heal 1 person about 500hp just use a group heal and do 2k damage in the process. for power efficiency use your first direct group heal u have called recovery of the untamed and also dont forget that group buffs as well as your group breathing spell will proc it if your in a tight situation.

Slix

DPS AA build would be Int line max crits, infusion, other KoS AA can still go into STA line for heal crits.

EoF Energy line (all but storms and Ring) at max

after that its all about total INT, Proc gear and casting orders. Learning what spells to cast and when to cast them is the hardest thing about fury dps. for example single target dps, dot dot bolt, hibernation, shriek, dot dot nova. Or aoe dos Nova, dot dot shriek, Hib, shriek, dot dot nova, bolt

The key is using queues for spells dont wait for 1 spell to finish before you click the next one, find casting orders that have the least amount of time between casts and if there is a gap in time fill it in with using infusion procs on your fast group heals.

But unlike scouts and mages we can only busrt our damage for so long, especially with infusion most fights will leave you with little mana at the end...its the cost of a good parse.


Well this should teach me to try and write posts at work...I start and there is no replys by the time i get mine done...boom everyone else has already posts :p dam you all and you speedy posts.

Konrad

See... tiny things like this make so much sense that I feel retarded when I didnt realize it before. I love the idea of using a lower lvl group heal to get one person healed while proccing wrath 6 times... good man!

I do not see your EoF aa setup in your edit...

Widem

the edit was explaining more of disparity of dps through just raw casting amount...im at work so ill SS it later.

Konrad

I took your advice and was fucking around with lower lvl spells, you are a god! I'm lookin forward to your SS's Thanks buddy