Serene Symbol

Uziekiele · 06-27-2007, 01:54 PM

How important is this AA for raids nowadays? I know there were a couple of raids in KoS that you could use this to remove damage shields, etc, but how about EoF? This is 9 wasted AA points if it's not very necessary anymore.

If it does still have a use on EoF raids can you name any of them specifically, please? I'd love to put these 9 points elsewhere if possible.

AricaJade · 06-27-2007, 02:08 PM

it's actually more important for the mt warden than it is for a fury. mobs specifically that have a druid dispellable ds:

vamps in any raid zone (if they have a buff on them called dark caress or any sk buff, we can take that off)
MIS - blood colussus, 2 named vamps (cheroon & the other one that i cant remember off the top of my head)
EH - driads (mistress of the veil, any of the ones with the druid thorns buff), badgers, & the tender

if u dont take the ds off, then the melee r gonna get their ass kicked more & ur gonna have to heal a lot more just to keep them up

i have the dispell speced because we didnt have a warden for a while, plus the other fury & me had it coordinated that we'd both have a diff mob targetted to pretty much dispell on pull to get the ds off asap. now i left it because ppl tend to forget sometimes & im so in the practice of dispellin asap, along with the fact that ppl r used to hangin back a lil till they see my macro in raid sayin it's down

mania · 06-27-2007, 06:36 PM

It pays to have it, depending how you coordinate with other druids. As stated above, there are a few EoF mobs that do have nasty DS for the average set up. I used to have it but I respec'd down a different line, though with the new changes coming out I might bring it back since it will not require symbols.

Mojitin · 06-27-2007, 06:41 PM

I don't have it and probably still won't have it after the update. It's useful but I prefer to dodge AE's than remove a damage shield. That's what wardens are for

. It all depends on how you coordinate.

Widem · 06-27-2007, 06:53 PM

definately useful still. do i have it no, but its completely situational.

the mt warden is going to be in that line neways so she has taken over that role in our raids. but still a very useful tool, but i havent used it in awhile and i think the biggest question is does anyone know after how many points putting more into it is useless? because of the dispell so many levels thing is what i mean.

Pinski · 06-27-2007, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Widem

definately useful still. do i have it no, but its completely situational.

the mt warden is going to be in that line neways so she has taken over that role in our raids. but still a very useful tool, but i havent used it in awhile and i think the biggest question is does anyone know after how many points putting more into it is useless? because of the dispell so many levels thing is what i mean.

You need 5 points, any less and it's useless, anymore and it's wasted points.

Slix · 06-28-2007, 09:46 AM

Yeah for heal spec'd druids you better have 5 points in this...I mean brigs and crusaders can remove some damage sheilds but they cant do them all. Either their debuff doesnt cover the right spell type or their recasts are to long to be useful. Besides its a free proc chance as its a hostile spell cast.

Now 1 think i have not tested is wether or not 5 points debuffs the same as 8 points...dont really care to either thats to much work.

Uziekiele · 06-29-2007, 11:11 AM

Thanks for the feedback. In the end I went with Tortoise + Infusion because I'm a Fury not a Warden, heh.

Aviendha · 07-06-2007, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Slix

Yeah for heal spec'd druids you better have 5 points in this...I mean brigs and crusaders can remove some damage sheilds but they cant do them all. Either their debuff doesnt cover the right spell type or their recasts are to long to be useful. Besides its a free proc chance as its a hostile spell cast.

Now 1 think i have not tested is wether or not 5 points debuffs the same as 8 points...dont really care to either thats to much work.

I only have 4 points in this and I can take off the ds without a problem. Every once and a while it resists and I have to recast. But usually I dont have a problem. Having 8 points doesnt seem to make a bit of difference as does having 5 points. At this point we arent fighting mobs above level 77 anyway.