DPS parsing - Page 2

razieh · 07-08-2007, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Goozmania

See, I just don't agree with this at all. Nothing we have has a long recast, so it's pretty reasonable to assume if a Fury is able to do x dps on a trash mob, he can replicate the same dps over and over.

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Originally Posted by Goozmania

If I'm ever under 500, my heal parse is generally 2x the next highest healer, or I was just slacking. Cuz u see, all the other priests (save wardens) have debuffs and temporary buffs to cast; in lieu of that, I have nukes and dot's to cast. Tho I do use our horrible debuffs anyway lawl

So wait? you ALWAYS do 2200-2800 right because this other post is contradicting!

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Originally Posted by Goozmania

If Furies had decapitate or fusion, or any huge damage spell on a long recast timer, than showing single parses would be different, but they don't, so I think you're wrong.

No its not different, on my defiler I can hit upwards of 3k on encounter fights does this mean that I parse like this 100% of the time? hell no... Get a clue zone wides or nothing in my opinion Slix and Widem are both right.

oddyophile · 07-08-2007, 04:58 PM

Where the hell do you parse 3k with a Defiler? PPR?

And if it's not PPR, how the hell do you parse 3k with a Defiler?

Goozmania · 07-08-2007, 05:12 PM

First, don't act like I'm a liar because you can't do what I can lolz. What about Mojitin who isn't even impressed by the numbers you think I made up, and claims he can do 3.2k. I haven't had access to Ro blessings and miracles for 2 months or so due to killing him. I also said that I'd never broken 3k without a miracle, implying with Wrath of the Burning Prince, I have been higher.

My group setup nowadays is typically Fury - Troubador - Random Mage 1 - Random Mage 2 - Random Mage 3 - Illusionist; I never have Time Compression, that would be stupid. I often have Synergism now because of the DPS I'm able to do, which ends up being about 110dps (the same as Dissonant Note) My comment about PoM was regarding zonewides, and yes it only accounts for between 1 and 2%. Sometimes, very infrequently, the troubador casts JC on me when I'm DPSing, but my dps is never higher when he does, possibly because I haven't mastered what order to cast in when it's up.

I also suggest you reread what I said, which is accurate. Furies don't have long recast spells, so it is safe to assume those numbers are obtainable AT LEAST every other fight provided the Fury has the power. I also mentioned I don't have the power to maintain it every fight, but with 1 or 2 specific items I will be able to.

As far as group encounters, I'm never able to go full out dps because there's always someone needing healing; whereas I'm sure some guilds don't have that issue and their Fury might be able to go all out. Because our guild has 5 out of 7 healers on a raid trying to dps, it takes away from my ability to dps; I don't mind, however, because the few hundred I lose by having to make up for some lost healing is made up for by the 1400+ they are all doing.

I've noticed that people from Dissolution have real trouble reading. You quoted what you call a "contradiction" but it looks more like you are just blind. I said 2200-2800 on trash; then I went on to say that on named, if I'm under 500dps it's because I'm either having to heal a shitton (2x was an exaggeration) or I'm simply not playing right. It's a tad different now with all the curing required, but as far as I'm concerned, where a shaman debuffs inbetween wards and heals, I nuke and dot between regens and heals.

razieh · 07-08-2007, 05:13 PM

Ice lash, Ro's fury, incinerate on a roughly 40 second group encounter with everything up pretty easy in my opinion with all that.

*edit fixed encounter fight so it actually made sense

LFG · 07-08-2007, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by oddyophile

Where the hell do you parse 3k with a Defiler? PPR?

And if it's not PPR, how the hell do you parse 3k with a Defiler?

1. Two box a well geared SK and defiler.
2. Go to Kaladim inzone.
3. One pull every last fricken dog in the inzone on the SK, run these mobs to the defiler.
4. Cast all the SK's AE spells
5. Hit Defile on the Defiler

It's a sight to behold, a mountain of dogs.

Goozmania · 07-08-2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Widem

Gooz this is the exact reason only a ZW ext dps really matters b/c anyone can parse well on one encounter the exeptional players parse well on every encounter. and no shit some encounters your parse is going to suck balls but that come with the territory of the zone.

To me this just makes you look ignorant, or you're just arguing to be a douche. You do realize that every guild requires different things of their healers, especially their dps healers... based on their Main tank, their offtank, and their other healers. Guilds also have significantly different total dps. These factors make comparing zonewides between priests of different guilds completely pointless.

oddyophile · 07-08-2007, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LFG

1. Two box a well geared SK and defiler.
2. Go to Kaladim inzone.
3. One pull every last fricken dog in the inzone on the SK, run these mobs to the defiler.
4. Cast all the SK's AE spells
5. Hit Defile on the Defiler

It's a sight to behold, a mountain of dogs.

Lol. I've done almost the same thing in HoF without two boxing. We had a guardian, a brigand, and a warlock. I only hit 1.9k.

Mojitin · 07-08-2007, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Goozmania

First, don't act like I'm a liar because you can't do what I can lolz. What about Mojitin who isn't even impressed by the numbers you think I made up, and claims he can do 3.2k. I haven't had access to Ro blessings and miracles for 2 months or so due to killing him. I also said that I'd never broken 3k without a miracle, implying with Wrath of the Burning Prince, I have been higher.

Went camping for a few days sorry for the late replies, anyway:

What about me is I said that's the highest I have ever parsed on a legit fight of 4 mobs, and of course my group was perfect. Don't be calling me out because people are calling out your questionable parses, which don't impress me because:

1. Anyone can blow their load and parse high, then copy/paste their highest parses ever and /flex.
2. Anyone can make numbers up. Your numbers WOULD impress me IF you had an ACT screenie or something to make it concrete. Watch this:

Mojitin 9999 | 9999.00 (00:01) I pwn!

Zonewides > all, as I posted in an earlier thread which I have yet to catch up on and don't really care about since Gooz said he won't post zonewides 'cause they are "stupid". A zonewide is the best way to show what you can really do. I could do insane damage but heal nothing, or the other way around, both cases making me a terrible fury. I think that's what we have here.

razieh · 07-08-2007, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Goozmania

I agree with the zonewide on a Fury is bs, because of the changing roles. I'm usually 2200-2800 on trash (single target), and 500-1600 on named where I have to do stuff.

If I'm ever under 500, my heal parse is generally 2x the next highest healer, or I was just slacking. Cuz u see, all the other priests (save wardens) have debuffs and temporary buffs to cast; in lieu of that, I have nukes and dot's to cast. Tho I do use our horrible debuffs anyway lawl

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Originally Posted by Goozmania

See, I just don't agree with this at all. Nothing we have has a long recast, so it's pretty reasonable to assume if a Fury is able to do x dps on a trash mob, he can replicate the same dps over and over. Different guilds allow different things from their dps healers... and some are rarely allowed to go all out dps. For those, the zonewide is going to be significantly less, but they can still prove they can do great dps by showing single parses.

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If Furies had decapitate or fusion, or any huge damage spell on a long recast timer, than showing single parses would be different, but they don't, so I think you're wrong.

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Originally Posted by Goozmania

I also suggest you reread what I said, which is accurate. Furies don't have long recast spells, so it is safe to assume those numbers are obtainable AT LEAST every other fight provided the Fury has the power. I also mentioned I don't have the power to maintain it every fight, but with 1 or 2 specific items I will be able to.

As far as group encounters, I'm never able to go full out dps because there's always someone needing healing; whereas I'm sure some guilds don't have that issue and their Fury might be able to go all out. Because our guild has 5 out of 7 healers on a raid trying to dps, it takes away from my ability to dps; I don't mind, however, because the few hundred I lose by having to make up for some lost healing is made up for by the 1400+ they are all doing.

I've noticed that people from Dissolution have real trouble reading. You quoted what you call a "contradiction" but it looks more like you are just blind. I said 2200-2800 on trash; then I went on to say that on named, if I'm under 500dps it's because I'm either having to heal a shitton (2x was an exaggeration) or I'm simply not playing right. It's a tad different now with all the curing required, but as far as I'm concerned, where a shaman debuffs inbetween wards and heals, I nuke and dot between regens and heals.

Ok where to start you are saying that zone wides don't matter because you can do it every encounter, which is obviously a lie if you do less than 500 on some names, aka a contradiction!
Secondly you never said "at least" you said

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Originally Posted by Goozmania

See, I just don't agree with this at all. Nothing we have has a long recast, so it's pretty reasonable to assume if a Fury is able to do x dps on a trash mob, he can replicate the same dps over and over.

So please stop twisting your words in order to try and save face even the person you fell back on is calling you out now.

Slix · 07-08-2007, 08:34 PM

Like I said before Gooz you can preach all you want on guild setups and groups....fact is until you post an ACT screen we all think your parse data is full of shit.

Tell ya what how about we all pick a mob...mabye a named...mabye an ecounter and all have a parse off and see just what realistic numbers are and who really is full of it.

To be fair..no miricles, blessings, or illusionist buffs say on lets see....Shredder in FTH, or the 5 Vampire Group behind the door in FTH Nice easy yellow con mobs to show both single and aoe dps ability....

Come on Gooz you wanna put your money where your mouth is ?