Slix

Originally Posted by Archonix
My general focus at the moment is Epic Weapon designs, so I've been spending some time trolling the class forums looking at suggestions (They seem to have a higher signal-to-noise ratio, so I won't bother asking anyone to reply in this thread). If the class mods want to sticky a thread in each section, it would make my life a lot easier...thanks!

And if your class doesn't already have a thread...stop slacking...





Ok folks lets get the ideas flowing....its not everyday a dev will come to your forum section and say hey what do you the players wants....so lets help him out.

Slix

The way I see it is we can go 2 routes here....do we want a heal based item, or a spell based item.

I think that topic alone will be hard narrow down. Im gonna look back at old epics from eq1 and see if anything comes to mind.

Slix

OK EQ1 Epic 1.0



In its day this had mid-high end stats, bad resists, but the effect was a dot spell. This spell was 3 times greater per tic then any other DoT the druid had.


Now for the Epic 2.0

Staff of Living Brambles: MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO DROP
Slot: PRIMARY Skill:1H Blunt Atk Dly:31 Dmg:34 AC:10
Dex +30. Sta +20. Cha+ 20. Wis+ 30. HP+ 195. Mana+ 195. SV Fire+ 20. SV Cold+ 20. SV magic+ 20. Dot Shielding+ 2% Required Lvl 65
Effect: Nature's Blight(Must Equip. Casting Time:0.8)
Recast Delay: 10 minutes. Recast Type:6
Diffuses your target's mystic protection, allowing direct damage spells to do more damage to them.
Focus Effect: Silence of the Snake
Causes creatures to be less hateful to any heal or damage spell that you cast.

So by looking at the 2.0 we can see it had a castable massive debuff allowing others to do more damage to the target. We can also see it had dehate on it.

Now I didnt play with the epic2.0 back in the day so im not sure of its value.





Everquest 2 : Looking forward.

Ok so lets take what we know as furys. Heal procs are not good they are too small, and not reliable, damage procs are nice but again dont really add to our dps signifcantly. When eq2 launched the furys role in a group was to increase the damage potential of his group. We had alot of melee based procs and also some resist debuff spells for nukes. As DoF and EoF came out and we got new spells and AA's it became clear that we had been geared to fast recovery healers with high damage potential of all the healers. We had been designed to be multi tasked.

Our Heals were never enough to fully recover a tanks HP we had been designed to stop the loss of HP and hold the tank up until the larger Shamen and Cleric heals could land and bring the tank green, also we were given some of the best group heal spells...fast and strong spells.

Our DPS...not enough to compete with a scout or mage, but enough to make a difference when you had to really burn something.




Epic concepts

So looking forward to the EQ2 Fury Epic....tough call.

So far I was thinking of something geared to our shapeshift ability. ie (winterwolf = X effect) (Treeshape = Y effect) (Tiger = Z effect) this would allow the fury to continue their multi role support .

We could go with a Nature's Rage type effect that ties back to our massive T5 melee buffs we use to have.

We could go with a high % high hp heal proc (meh) or even a PBAOE Regen heal ( Oo neat huh)

We could go with a hostile spell effect that would cover all of our nukes in 1 blanket effect for increasing our dps.

That my intial thoughts and concepts...gonna think some more and give you all a chance to chime in.

Vegaxe

I would like to see a effect that is similiar to an illusionists TC. Reduced timers, faster casting and recovery. This would effect all our spells, healing and dps. this could be an always on effect, or one that procs for like 30 seconds on a successful spell attack.

I like the % based increases also. Example could be like plasma wand, or the NTT new classs wrist piece that increase next heal by 25%. Those type of procs are nice.


Another far fetched idea, maybe a clicky pet on the weapon. Yeah, i am a sucker for maybe a Lion or a killer tree pet that actually would dish out some damage and last a little while. I am thinking maybe pet that lasts 15 minutes on a 30 minute recast timer?

tunare avatar staff has nice buff proc... but do we what something that helps others, or ourselves. I know somethign like that helps everyone in a raid, but kinda boring. I woudl liek to see something that makes our class more fun to play, or is unique enough we can say WOW.

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Widem

i feel we already have a large majority of AAs dedicated to recast times which does hurt our growth for dps in a raid setup and these items will be for raids so thats the only reason i would not go for that. for soloing great but these items will not be for soloing.

what i want to see is and item that instead of procing a group heal or self power proc i want something that procs power for your group plain and simple.

x times a minute proc x amount of power for group members on any spell cast.

the any spell cast is b/c of how versatile furies are you never know what they will be casting.

but thats what i would like im all for more healing or more damage but i think recast timers will cap our dps very quickly in a raid setting.

Slix

Ok how about

If target is Winterwolf:
On succesful hostile spell this effect will trigger 1.8 times per minute
Casts: Essence of Storms lasts for 10s, increase mana of group by 500, next hostile spell will do 50% more damage

(grp mana dps proc)


If Target is Treeshape:
On succesful benifical spell this effect will trigger 1.8 timer per minute
Casts: Growths Fury, targets area effect will gain 500hp every 2s for 10s

(raidwide pbaoe heal)

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Its hard to say really what these should be and what scope of power they should have....i mean look at how uber avatar loot is now....now add 10 more levels and the possibility of new loot to come.

OK first step.....Staff or Scimitar graphic ? seems like a good place to start

Widem

yeah something like that i think would be kewl, im sure it would be tested a lot though b/c i dont want the group power proc to be so much that it would make power trivial, but i can see how making it an offensive proc with that kinda power could work pretty well.

Slix

see post edit of my above post :p

Widem

i really think the different ability depending on what "stance" we are in is a great idea.

the only reason i would prefer scimmy is b/c whens the last time furies have had a really good sword to use...but it makes no difference to me as long as the item is kewl and useful. im not much on graphics if you were to look at my hodgepodge of gear.

Fijiram

6th concentration slot ??

Ability to put agitate on 2 person ??

Clicky like a manastone but group-wide ??

Of course there's overused ideas like self ae immunity.. power proc... faster casting time / re-use.. damage proc.. life tap... those better be uber tho..

I don't have much ideas really but if i can enlight someone...