Clear Cutter Machete goes to a dirge - Page 15

Widem · 08-22-2007, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Zahne

On that note, I have every right to kick some stupid fury out of my group that thinks they are DPS.

Bottom line, If I'm looking for DPS I'm not picking up a Fury. If I'm looking for a healer, I'll pickup a Fury.

If they think for some stupid reason they're more valuable to the group doing damage, they can go solo. Imho they should look after healing first, and DPS second in all cases.

why cant you do both? shit, rolling with 5 healers i still spend most of my time dpsing. wtf do you want them to do? Are you seriously telling me you would get pissed at one of your healers for easily pulling a 1000zw in any zone? and thats pretty damn respectable. if a fury isnt doing that no matter what the gear they are complete trash. good ones and depending on gear will be pulling 1400-1800zw in zones like EH. You choose to just say fuck them stop doing dps and spot heal everytime someone hits 80%? Your a dumbass.

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Originally Posted by Deludar

This coming from the guy who is guildless and hasn't done any EoF raiding. I know plenty of furies who can probably out DPS you AND keep you alive at the same time. Maybe you should take some time to learn what the classes do before you start trying to tell people who they are "supposed" to be played.

Ohh, and im sure chanters spend the entire raid mezzing mobs too right?

dude its not even worth arguing. i know for a fact i would be able to beat him in a zonewide with a group of my choosing and him having no group. That statement he made was just over the top and retarded. The only reason he would be even remotely close would be b/c he is a necro and shouldnt have any power issues. You gotta realize his situation though. He is in a guild that either hasnt or is just scratching the surface of EoF. He is doing 1/10th of the raid dps which shows he doesnt even know what good players are. And most crap guilds are so god damn slow that shit even i would have a huge dps increase b/c i would have much more favorable recycle times.

its never going to happen though. he will never be in the same raid as me under these circumstances so whats the point?

MysidiaDrakkenbane · 08-22-2007, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Twister

Actually, you're not getting it. The point was Dirges are an actual DPS class and equally deserve any weapon drop that any other scout can use.......look at the weapon descripton it says "All Scouts". Here lemmie show you........

So whats your next arguement? Dirges aren't scouts?

You know, by your agrument, I should be able to roll on that motherfucker too.

But hey, I guess courtesy goes right out the window when it comes to gear concerning guildies.

If no DPS would want that blade, yeah, I'll roll on it. But I know that blade would be better used by a rogue class than me. This is what I'm getting at.

Bards can DPS, yes. But how much difference would there be if a rogue got it (that needed it) vs. a bard?

Widem · 08-22-2007, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MysidiaDrakkenbane

You know, by your agrument, I should be able to roll on that motherfucker too.

yeah you can, but you wont b/c if you did you would be stupid b/c there is better and easier items to get that increase your dps by more. your argument isnt even relevant.

Avaela · 08-22-2007, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MysidiaDrakkenbane

You know, by your agrument, I should be able to roll on that motherfucker too.

But hey, I guess courtesy goes right out the window when it comes to gear concerning guildies.

If no DPS would want that blade, yeah, I'll roll on it. But I know that blade would be better used by a rogue class than me. This is what I'm getting at.

Bards can DPS, yes. But how much difference would there be if a rogue got it (that needed it) vs. a bard?

hell ya melee wardens ftw

MysidiaDrakkenbane · 08-22-2007, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Widem

yeah you can, but you wont b/c if you did you would be stupid b/c there is better and easier items to get that increase your dps by more. your argument isnt even relevant.

Actually, Widem, I wouldn't roll on it because other classes need it/would use it better.

But thanks for missing my point.

MysidiaDrakkenbane · 08-22-2007, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Slyk

hell ya melee wardens ftw

I gotta tell ya, it is fun. ;-)

kyros · 08-22-2007, 01:18 PM

grats to that dirge, i say.

anyone who thinks that bards shouldn't be allowed to bid on dps gear can go fuck a tree.

just because it's one of the best items for class x doesn't mean it isn't also one of the best items for a bard.

kyros · 08-22-2007, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MysidiaDrakkenbane

Actually, Widem, I wouldn't roll on it because other classes need it/would use it better.

that thinking is fucking wrong.
you pass on things that aren't a big upgrade so that other people can get them who need it more. that's courtesy.
not bidding on something that significantly helps you to make your character better is called fucking lazy and is the mark of a poor player.

Widem · 08-22-2007, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MysidiaDrakkenbane

Actually, Widem, I wouldn't roll on it because other classes need it/would use it better.

But thanks for missing my point.

maybe you should make a better point. b/c if you would know how to fucking play your class you would see how wardens put in the same group setup as a dirge will do more dps.

but thats beside the point. if thats the best item for your class in that slot for maxing any type whether for dps or healing you have every right to take it. If someone else wants it worse than you they can pay dkp for it. If they dont have enough dkp that means 1 of 2 things. They havent contributed to teh guild enough to deserve the item or they have already looted so many items that its someone elses turn to get the item.

This same logic goes back to you complaining about how you cant accomplish anything in the raid scene with your guild b/c of your turnover rate. This is once again why. People get pissed off for being shit on by attending raids everyday then losing an item to some leader assigned lott or some bullshit /random.

Once again thats your choice but dont act like you dont understand why everything is a clusterfuck.

MysidiaDrakkenbane · 08-22-2007, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kyros

that thinking is fucking wrong.
you pass on things that aren't a big upgrade so that other people can get them who need it more. that's courtesy.
not bidding on something that significantly helps you to make your character better is called fucking lazy and is the mark of a poor player.

I'd sooner roll on a +healing item than a DPS one, whether or not I DPS. My job is healing first, DPS is last on the list and that item would be wasted on me because of my job - that's not lazy that's called being courteous to those who would get better use out of it.