Clear Cutter Machete goes to a dirge - Page 16

Zahne · 08-22-2007, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Widem

why cant you do both? shit, rolling with 5 healers i still spend most of my time dpsing. wtf do you want them to do? Are you seriously telling me you would get pissed at one of your healers for easily pulling a 1000zw in any zone? and thats pretty damn respectable. if a fury isnt doing that no matter what the gear they are complete trash. good ones and depending on gear will be pulling 1400-1800zw in zones like EH. You choose to just say fuck them stop doing dps and spot heal everytime someone hits 80%? Your a dumbass.

Holy christ is it easy to bait you people.

Take a second to read what I said. I was saying a Fury's job is to:

1. HEAL
2. DPS

What does that mean? That means HEAL. Once that's taken care of, DPS.

There are far too many Fury's out there that have that backwards.

Edit: If it's hard for you to understand, just let me know ok?

MysidiaDrakkenbane · 08-22-2007, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Widem

maybe you should make a better point. b/c if you would know how to fucking play your class you would see how wardens put in the same group setup as a dirge will do more dps.

but thats beside the point. if thats the best item for your class in that slot for maxing any type whether for dps or healing you have every right to take it. If someone else wants it worse than you they can pay dkp for it. If they dont have enough dkp that means 1 of 2 things. They havent contributed to teh guild enough to deserve the item or they have already looted so many items that its someone elses turn to get the item.

This same logic goes back to you complaining about how you cant accomplish anything in the raid scene with your guild b/c of your turnover rate. This is once again why. People get pissed off for being shit on by attending raids everyday then losing an item to some leader assigned lott or some bullshit /random.

Once again thats your choice but dont act like you dont understand why everything is a clusterfuck.

Actually, I'm a recruit for a raiding guild right now and I'm quite happy with my personal progression since I made the change from casual to hardcore.

I understand how the DKP system works and why its there. The OP asked everyone's opinion. And my opinion is based on what I would have done in the situation.

And I do understand the workings of my class very well, thanks. I just disagree with the majority here on their view of what happened.

Malachani · 08-22-2007, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MysidiaDrakkenbane

Bards can DPS, yes. But how much difference would there be if a rogue got it (that needed it) vs. a bard?

You still haven't answered my question. What weapon is "best" for bards that isn't better on another dps? When do Bards get other people passing on gear because "that's clearly bard loot"? WHEN?! NEVER! Because weapons will always be better in the hands of preds and rogues, and spell procs and +spell damage is always better on a mage. So by your "logic" bards get leftovers, thats it.

That's SOOOO nice of you. bitch.

kyros · 08-22-2007, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MysidiaDrakkenbane

I'd sooner roll on a +healing item than a DPS one, whether or not I DPS. My job is healing first, DPS is last on the list and that item would be wasted on me because of my job - that's not lazy that's called being courteous to those who would get better use out of it.

you know that +healing gets normalized based on your CASTING time, right?
and you realize how little that matters with warden heals since it also gets spread across the ticks...?
you'd be better off going with a straight dps spec... you really shouldn't have to do that much healing, anyway.

it's narrow-minded to say that someone else gets more from it than you if you can use it to improve your performance. passing because it's not a priority and you want to save for something else... that's one thing. passing because you think someone else can "make better use of it" when it's an awesome item for your class makes me want to strangle kittens. but i guess that difference in level of thinking is what separates the good guilds - and players - from everybody else.

Dants · 08-22-2007, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Alania

You still haven't answered my question. What weapon is "best" for bards that isn't better on another dps? When do Bards get other people passing on gear because "that's clearly bard loot"? WHEN?! NEVER! Because weapons will always be better in the hands of preds and rogues, and spell procs and +spell damage is always better on a mage. So by your "logic" bards get leftovers, thats it.

That's SOOOO nice of you. bitch.

Clearly SOE devs need to implement more bard only loot. Fuck, if brawlers get brawler only loot, why not bards and enchanters or any other archtype?

MysidiaDrakkenbane · 08-22-2007, 02:11 PM

Madcap - me rolling on that item would be a waste. I'm almost fully specced melee but I don't the majority of the time because of the group setup I'm placed in. If I am able to, I do - but it's not something that is available to me. I'm a healer and I understand that.

To me, that weapon would be wasted on me because it wouldn't get much use other than to look pretty on me. Where as a brigand or a swashy could really get some heavy use out of it. It'd merely be a trophy on me and to me, that's a waste. If that makes me a bad player in your eyes, so be it.

As for Alaina - I was wondering when you'd post again...

To answer your question:
- Dazzling Blade
- Chel'Drak's Shard
- Chromatic Galvanized Blade

You can't tell me that there is gear out there that isn't leaned towards a specific class.

MysidiaDrakkenbane · 08-22-2007, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dants

Clearly SOE devs need to implement more bard only loot. Fuck, if brawlers get brawler only loot, why not bards and enchanters?

That's a different can of worms all together, my friend. Itemization has been a problem for a long time.

Windraa · 08-22-2007, 02:13 PM

NM. Didnt make sense...

Widem · 08-22-2007, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dants

Clearly SOE devs need to implement more bard only loot. Fuck, if brawlers get brawler only loot, why not bards and enchanters or any other archtype?

dant, i seriously want to cut you right now. i think what you meant to say was its bad enough SOE is to dumb to figure out itemization that they have to create class only loot.

shit i wish they removed all restrictions on everything.

Dants · 08-22-2007, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MysidiaDrakkenbane

To answer your question:
- Dazzling Blade
- Chel'Drak's Shard
- Chromatic Galvanized Blade

You can't tell me that there is gear out there that isn't leaned towards a specific class.

Umm... no. They're just shittier versions of the CCM, and 2 of them are PVP items.