Dakis

I die a shit ton, but I also kill a lot - do you know any Dirges that aren't in my guild with even 8k kills? Didn't think so.

Why are you on here bitching again?

Faabio

Dakis, he's not aware of death because he only goes out in raids, and when his server on has the population to support one group of opposing forces of course he isn't going to die.

But that's the exact reason you have as many kills as their entire server combined

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Raabe

LoL maybe on venekor 12 kpd ratio is low because everyone there sucks and theres so few that you never run into someone who can kill you but on nagafen there are Full groups and raids everywhere, dieing happens wether its to token leechers or people jumping in on fights or for what ever reason. So go back to your empty server.

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Arkarius

It's funny how quick the PvE'ers are to be all angry and make fun of PvP'ers who raid. Honestly it boils down to being jealous because we like to experience all of what the game has to offer, as opposed to strutting around freely farming away like bluebies when there's nothing to raid.

There are a couple of reasons why faction guilds haven't cleared these encounters yet. I do not believe that they are impossible by any means, except for maybe some of the harder EH encounters.

The first being that faction guilds simply cannot put out the same DPS numbers that an exiled guild can. You cannot argue with this fact. If you think that a faction guild can regularly pump out 35k parses, and have never tried nor done it yourself, you need to just shut your fucking mouth.

Another reason is that I have not seen a faction guild that is a hardcore raiding guild. Some of them may think they are hardcore, but they are certainly not. The only hardcore raiding guilds on the server are Onyx and The Kraken. If you look at their recruitment and raiding policies, they have the correct procedures in place that define hardcore. You really need the same people, that take the time to learn exactly what they should be doing on raids at every single moment and how to react to every situation. This comes through experience, and doesn't work when you have a constantly revolving list of active raiders. My own guilds' in particular changes much much more than I care for.

My third point is gear. Yes, PvP gear is basically SoE's way of apologizing for how difficult raiding is on a faction side. Yet you faggots bitch and moan about how overpowered it is on a daily basis. Honestly, not everyone has full sets of full PvP gear, and when you travel in a full group PvPing, unless you make it a point to farm bots constantly rather than looking for real PvP, it takes a LONG FUCKING TIME to aquire tokens. Hell, I don't even have a full set yet and I'm a swashbuckler. The fact is that solo PvP is almost all but dead in this game unless you wish to be a walking fame donation for everyone who rolls in a x7 PvPing. My favorite thing to do these days is go out in a 6 man group and look for challenging fights, whether that be encountering other 6 man groups of exceptional players like Onyx and the Kraken, or battling the multiple group zerg of FP who are dragging their knuckles around KoS zones hugging carpets tighter than a fat bitch and her sandwich.

As you can see, the only hardcore raid guilds on the server are EXILED, because you have to have all the classes to beat all the content in the game. That's just the fucking way it is, and you are proof of that. Sure, now that you are experienced on how to beat these encounters you say how easy they are and that you could come over and beat them on a faction side, but I don't see you trying that. Your little egos would drop to the floor and get stepped on as you deepthroat your foot.

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Stoic

Ya know I would love it if there was a communal zone that connected all servers. A kind of Arena zone that when you zoned in, you could fight anyone from any server. Just to settle these little arguements. Hell even have a "prefab" raid where everyone in the raid was geared out in the same exact stuff as any other raid that did it but it had a "time completition" goal. If you couldn't navigate your raid through the zone in the given time with everyone in the "standard" armor regardless of what server you were from. Then you couldn't get on the leaderboards.

If something like that existed it would help show how inferior some people are and how superior others are. I am sure there are some talented people on PVP servers but if anything I learned when my toon was copied to pvp test and I got to "experiance" what pvp was like, I found a majority of the players to just suck. Granted I had raid gear because thats what I focused on, and not PVP, but gear doesn't determine skill. And from the level of skill I was witnessing there, it was lacking ALOT. Just because all you do is PVP doesn't mean your any good at it, when your only competition is the unwashed masses of morons. True skill is being able to take a toon with even marginal gear and doing things a equally equipped toon could never accomplish because they lack the ability.

I just wish I could recopy to pvp test while it was still pvp and 1vs1 most of the pvp whiners. I even humored some of the ones I did fight by putting on my EOF legendary gear, despite the fact it made little to no diffrence in the outcome of the fight.

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Dakis

99% of the people on the PvP Test server were from PvE servers just using the betabuffer to suck at PvP.

Stoic

I was actually referring to the people who were from PVP servers. Before the beta buffer mobs were put in.

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Arkarius

I fought a few people from PvE servers and they were absolutely horrible at PvP. As in they barely even scratched me. You either fought people from PvE and didn't know it, fought people who were trying out different classes, or the scrubbier population of the server.

Generally, I find that the people on PvP servers have much more skill than people on PvE servers. This is mainly because in order to survive and not have your shit pushed in every 5 minutes you are forced to learn every detail about your class. Not saying that there aren't people on PvE servers who know their shit, talking the average player here. This is coming from someone who was in NPU on Guk during the very early days of EQ2.

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Narkle

When your toon was pvp copied that server wasnt scaling to pvp rules...AKA your heals were doing pve heals in pvp..All the bluebies running around with rigid bows one shotting people and healers being able to pvp with one hand while jacking off with the other to the fact they can pvp with their toons and thinking they own or something is nowhere near how pvp is on live...Not even close and you know it

Choadley

Let's squash that shit right there. It doesn't take 35k DPS to complete those zones. That just makes them more easy and faster. It's by no means necessary and when they were first cleared in lesser gear, most people weren't pushing 35k, like we are now. Many guilds and pickup raids do MMIS with 20k. It doesn't have anything to do with having leetest top end DPS to clear the zone. Stability in healing works just fine.

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