Arkarius

Saleen is not a trustworthy source of information. I'd like to see proof, honestly. One person with a fabled SoD reward, if you would be so kind as to name that person, does not reflect that.

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Arkarius

If you would have read my post I wasn't bitching or whining. Yes we are at a disadvantage because we don't have all the classes. That's not our only weakness, as I stated above. I'm sorry if a couple of paragraphs is a "book" and too much for you to read. In a 22 page thread, a few paragraphs shouldn't really be all that bothersome.

We will kill Mayong before RoK comes out, that is my personal goal and I'm pretty sure we will be able to do it.

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Crychtonn - Bylar

I'd have to agree with you on this. I used to duel a ton long ago and was one of the top people. But then I got bored with it and stopped and haven't done it seriously in over a year. Dueled a few people lately and it's easy to see I've lost my touch for it. But I also would say the opposite holds just as true. Just because your a good PvPer doesn't mean your good at PvE raiding.

And if the guy from Europa lied about clearing MiS you'll have to follow up on that. I don't have any toons on his server so no way I could verify his story. Just took him for his word good or bad.


edit . . to add to your new post

Didn't mean to imply you were bitching or whining. Your post was good and to the point for the most part. The bitching and whining was in reference to the PvPers that had been posting early on in this thread and the horrid excuses they were trying to use.

TTR Mayong easier then MiS Mayong

OMFG the guy has no clue about raiding or end zone bosses. You first post seemed to be trying to defend those idiots.

Arkarius

No no, I'm defending myself, and people who aren't idiots like Dankshasta that happen to raid in a faction.

Dankshasta started life as a fabled out level locker, who bought an ebayed level 70. After hopping to a few pre-established raiding guilds in exile he proclaimed himself master of the universe and mr. know-it-all about raiding. A hooker from Saigon has more credibility thank Dankshasta.

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Falkur

Yep Ark your mom is pretty legit at times......

Crychtonn - Bylar

LMAO well that explains everything

Petgroup

Give any PVE player in a top WW guild 1 day to practice on a PVP server and they would be. It might not even take that long.

Being a good PVP player does not mean you know how to raid Rognog but being a good PVE player means you know your class and what it takes to give 110%.

I wiped to the friggin Gardner 500x that one day back when I was in SD. Try wiping to some pvp player 5x without throwing in the towel and camping.

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Falkur

Killing untitled Bots doesn't count, it takes MONTHS to be a good pvper, learning a zone, where to run if danger comes about, how to hide, how to use the terrian to your advantage all factors in...learing all that in one day and becoming good is a snowball chance in hell cause your no longer confined to a big circle anylonger

oh really? that's why when i log on to my PVE server i see lvl 70's in full MC or trash treasured gear? same reason, I had to tell a lvl 70 mage what buffs to put on what people cuase after 70 lvls he still didn't know? and that's just not from on inciedent either, it happens daily on PVE...its like Xegonite warriors everywere! PVPer's know there class very well, you have to! to be able to surivive on a Pvp server you gotta know what spells do what, which one saves your life, and which ones ain't worth hitting in the heat of the battle. also Gear factors in majorly, so getting all the proc gear, stifle/stun/fear/interrupt gear is also good to do

folks usally give up after wiping x1 and losing fame....plus we don't take armor hits tbh

Pinski

So you're talking about crappy PvE players and assume all people on PvE servers suck. Hi, he's talking about good PvE players, you know like the ones who are in top-end raid guilds who know how to do anything in a PvE situation, not those fucking people in trash MC/treasured gear. But of course, you don't understand his comment, he's obviously saying that if they copied over a raid guild over to a PvP server within a few days they'd be kicking your ass.

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ZoSo

Wow.. funny that your whole argument is based on a lie.

The obvious difference in raiding on blue vs red is the type of people that each server attracts and the players that stay. The leet dudes on blue are the ones with set gear as second backup. The leet dudes on red servers are the ones with Master title.

Raiding is a point for us to talk shit on Nagafen, but a much lower percentage of players really care about the which, when, how and who of mobs. Lower coolness factor = less interest = less time invested = lower percentage of people dying to raid each night = different stupid AA specs = less effective raids = less content cleared.

Ask the average scrub on the street in QH on Nagafen - they'll tell you their idea of end game is a Dreadnaught title, a full set of PVP gear and collection quest jewelry.

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