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Old 08-29-2007, 09:51 PM  
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not sure if any 1 else has seen this but check it out...my guild leader says it best...from the soe forums.

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Subject: STEALTH CHANGE ON TEST SERVER - PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE TELL ME IT IS A MISTAKE!


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Just now logged onto the test server to check out the dual wield changes and the new appearance armor slots.
Just for fun I started looking through my bags to see what armor pieces I had to switch in and out and noticed this little gem just by chance.
Paraffin Sealed Document
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An important looking document sealed in paraffin wax. You will be awarded a small amount of status if you give this to a member of a powerful guild of scouts.
(HERE IS THE NEW LITTLE GEM ADDED)
This item can be sold to certain NPC's for status. Selling it also earns guild status IF YOUR GUILD IS BELOW LEVEL 10.
[I cannot control my vocabulary]!!!!!
This is TOTAL bull SOE! My guild has been level 60 a LONG time now. We also have been running a contest to see which guild member can save up the most status items to be handed in after the expansion is released. The top 3 guildies with sheer quantity of status items are going to win cash prizes - 10 plat, 5 plat and 2 plat respectively.
As guild leader, I have removed myself from the contest but am on a personal mission to be the top saver of these items. I currently have just over 2million personal status and 200k guild status in these items saved up. I have been collecting them on all my characters and buying them off the broker for MONTHS now. MANY MANY Plat tied up in these things.
YOU ALL CREATED THESE ITEMS - YOU ALL DECIDED TO UP THE GUILD LEVELS - Are you really serious about this nerf????
I truly do apologize for the tone of my post but I am MAD about this.
We are not exploiting, we are not abusing any system, we have been operating under the parameters that YOU put in place. Now you are changing this for one simple reason - you must have noticed that guilds like mine were saving them up in preparation for November.
Two last questions SOE - Are you seriously going to make this change and leave it in? AND Did you think no one would notice?
Like I said, we have been planning our ascension to level 80 for MONTHS now. Look at my account, look at your database log files, I have put serious effort toward this venture.
Ways to raise status in the game:
HQs - limited number and we have done most of them
Writs - we crank these out when we were not max level (now our ONLY option)
Status items - you all just hit this so hard with the nerf bat it is no longer even an option
Contested/Raid mobs - we are a casual guild - this is out for us
City Guild raids - we excel at these - check your server logs - we have most the server discoveries on Blackburrow for these raid items
Basically SOE you are now saying the following, "If you are not a raid guild - YOU DO NOT DESERVE TO LEVEL YOUR GUILD". Is that what you intend here? Or maybe, "Don't bother joining a high level guild with a new low level character because your efforts won't be allowed to benefit the guild".
Please reconsider. I am begging. I will send chocolate chip cookies.
Thanks,
Allurana
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Old 08-29-2007, 09:57 PM  
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Default Re: stealth nerf with lu 38

It sucks, but it's basically to prevent guilds from going from level 60 to level 80 instantly when the expansion comes out.

That and, it's not like leveling a guild was very hard as it was, so it just means you won't be able to use T1 status items to level a guild beyond T1. Big deal!
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Old 08-29-2007, 10:03 PM  
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It's a good change imo.

I all ways found it retarded that the day they release expansions guilds are turning in ass loads of these things and get max lvl instantly. It kind of defeats the purpose of the hole guild lvling system.
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Old 08-29-2007, 10:22 PM  
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Default Re: stealth nerf with lu 38

it might be a good change, but ppl did put effort in to get those items in hope to lvl the guild a bit faster.

but i think the point is, soe AGAIN did stealth nerf something in hope that noone would notice till it hits live servers instead of putting it to the update notes...
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Old 08-29-2007, 11:57 PM  
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Default Re: stealth nerf with lu 38

I sort of have to agree with Pinski's point. You can still use status items dropped from L60-75 mobs for your guild's first 10 levels. Then to go from L70 to 80, you have to use T7 or T8 status items dropped from L70+ mobs.

As someone with the most contributed guild status in my guild, I can't say I really care. 65% of my contribution was from writs already. Most of the rest was from raids... nearly none from items. Myself and the third place spots called the 2nd place contributer a "cheater" for mostly buying items.

I have to admit that the instant distrust of SoE on this thread is somewhat funny. As someone who releases software to the public on a regular basis... boy I'd be amused if people got so mad at me for forgetting or purposely leaving out such a small change in a BETA environment.
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Old 08-30-2007, 12:42 AM  
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It's a good change imo.

I all ways found it retarded that the day they release expansions guilds are turning in ass loads of these things and get max lvl instantly. It kind of defeats the purpose of the hole guild lvling system.

Think it doesn't go far enough. I was never a fan of the dropped status items giving status in the first place. It devalued it to just another plat exchange.

With this change, do they at least gain the ability to be turned in anywhere since they all do the exact same thing and the run around is annoying.
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Well I'm glad I'm not one of those people that were buying all of those item off the broker!
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Default Re: stealth nerf with lu 38

Are you [I cannot control my vocabulary]ing kidding me? This is the most retarded change SOE ever did, and it's coming way too late. Everyone already saved and/or bought them.

Why not change it so Quests and Collections also don't reward EXP? It sucks that people save up many many Quests ready to turn in for the new expansion. Why not change that?

And by the way, everyone who says he likes the change simply likes it because he didn't buy them and/or farm them. I gave like 500 plat to those china farmers to buy Status Loot, and then, some weeks before the new Expansion goes live, they nerf it. That's so cool SOE. You are teh best at stealth nerfing.

Oh, and please fix it that you can't wear Level 70 armor if you level in RoK. I mean that's so retarded that people are allowed to gear up now and have easier times to grind up to 80 in RoK.
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Old 08-30-2007, 02:44 AM  
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the timing is not well thought out, but everything that helps making the grind in RoK longer might be welcome.
Remember, after RoK we have 1 year for the same instances/raid again w/o to many additions.
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Old 08-30-2007, 02:51 AM  
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Oh yeah, so we will be able to hit Level 80 short before the next expansions come out, so we will be able to buy the guild rewards from city merchants in one year. Oh wait, they suck anway. Nevermind...
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