Valanthe

Well, damn.

2% is still more than anything an Illu can provide, unless the Necro's power pool is incredibly low (however, I've never seen an Necro with a power pool less than 6k in raid).

I'm assuming this is in addition to Enchanter/Bard Power Regen as well as Flowing Thought, since it's an independant ability, much like spells such as Devitalizing Gazes, as well. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I still don't think Archlich is overpowered, though, it has a decent cost.

I've grown to hate Undead Tide as a mezzer, because the Necro can't control it. The pets tend to break mezzes, which really upsets me in zones where it's actually sort of necessary to mez (read: Nizara).

Oh, and since I haven't posted it, my vote for the easiest classes to play:

1. Wizard
2. Warlock
3. Brigand (was #1 pre-EoF by far)
4. Assassin

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Malignx

Archlich doesn't count the same as regular regen, no.

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Valanthe

Yeah, that's basically what I meant. I reworded it because I saw where people could misconstrue what I said. :-)

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Sciomar

That's where they chose to gear up for more power conservation/production.

The thorn in every mezzer's side, I love UDT, it's a nice little push for when it looks like the mob just might outlast the tank, for multi mob encounters tho I do wish they'd code it to act somewhat like swarm pets and attack the targetted mob first and then move to the next on their hate list. Sure it might eventually go in a different order than the raid force is going and break a mez, but for that starting mob it would save power for everyone else trying to quickly kill it off.

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Valanthe

In terms of Power Pool and spreading said pool around, I'm tempted to say Illusionists have you beat, but I can't prove it. :-P We can throw around a little more mana than most due to Savante and Mana Flow. You guys produce more, but you can't throw it around quite as well as we can.

UDT's great except for a few fights: Nizara, Gnorbl, and Warder. Else, it's a great tool. It just bothers me that they split like they do off the bat; I've had a few wipes happen on mobs because of them both on raids and in Nizara and it peeves me a little because once they break the mez it's near impossible to get it back.

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Illuminator

10-15K is more the norm, 25K is crit country. And doing that every 45 seconds (or 40 with AA) is next to impossible.

Yes but turning off AL isn't part of the bargain, just as I'm not expected to stop casting Ice Nova.

Nothing happens in a vacuum.

What's the cost? If you cast 2 successful hostile spells every 6 seconds, you've basically earned back all the health you lost. And you have Consumption, Abate Life, and Infernal Cloud (if range allows) to help catch up with. And when the pet takes heavy hits and you huff and puff to transfer life to it? Well then you have a healer in your group helping you out. That's what healers do, heal.

Effective FT140 at 7K power pool before any regen items or group buffs is mindblowing. It's fine that you feel you need high-powered regen, but look at my original complaint. It appears to be overcompensating by far.

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Oopo

Mage pet also has 2 lifetaps that heal the group. The cost is of archlich is nothing unless you're solo'ing maybe. It also adds on the low end around 5400 damage a minute w/o having to cast anything extra. I don't know about overpowering but it's definately the best lvl 70 unique spell in my opinion.

Edit: Actually 5400 damage/minute would be way on the low end without taking crits or disease debuffs into account. So probably around 8k or so in a raid.

Sciomar

Now you're bringing in a whole new variable into the discussion. Those are outside forces acting upon the necro, it's like arguing about guardians being able to live longer than a berzerker when the guardian has a defiler warding and healing him.

If this is the original complaint
I have a few questions...
1) What were the other high dps classes involved
2) What is the gear/ spell quality and setup of all classes involved
3) Scouts using any poisons (of course they were...which ones)? Every person with individual buffs sharing the wealth or trying to horde for their friends?
4) When you say 100k damage lead, does the necro by chance have Lifeburn? or did Undead Tide show up on the parse?

A well played necro who is focused on the encounter can beat anyone who isn't paying attention to what's going on when it comes to dps. Lifeburn alone when used, and with great healers/ MT ready for it, is capable of doing 100k dmg itself...wizards also have a form of this ability. And if he is placed in a group with power regen buffs in it that just kind of negates that part of the complaint because that particular group setup is designed to keep him full of power.



Mage pet's heals actually land less than you'd think and don't really negate AL drain.

AL provides ~5-8% of our total dps...not that much really. I beleive Malignx posted about this with a nice detailed layout on the main forums.

I won't argue that it's one of the nicer class defining abilities in-game, but neither Lich nor Archlich made me decide on being a necromancer.

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Oopo

So are you argueing that you can't keep your health up above 98% at all times because of archlich or what? The drain has never been a problem on my necro except when solo'ing. And to stay on topic, I would say necro is the number one easiest class to do good dps on, but not even in the top 5 to do maximum dps on.