Shadospawn

Ummmmm yeah this is retarded.

Are you saying that jousting makes your class difficult to play? One of the most difficult even? And that not having to joust makes brigands the easiest?

That's just stupid. If that's the kind of logic you're using to "rank" difficulty here, then you should probably refrain from making these kinds of posts.

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Anarke

Nah jousting isn't difficult, nothing in this game is difficult. Do you not understand this? Actually I'll tell you what's difficult...getting some fucking nemesis from lab. Anyways this post is partly serious in that I believe some classes are just much simpler to play. I see a terrible player (Lubij) playing a necro and doing similar dps to a good necro (Doompa). I see an assassin (Warsong) doing 60-70% of my dps on average, yet he has better gear in every aspect. Neither class is *hard* or even *difficult*, necro's are however simpler to play than assassins.

As I said earlier my post was part serious, but it was also part in jest. You can see this by my rankings of Illusionist and Coercor and how Brigands were placed at the #1 spot. I was talking with Falco at the time and he had said something about Calaglin. So I put the chanters on opposite sides of the scale with his class being in the easiest knowing he'd see it. The brigand comment was meant to stir the pot, I wanted to see some good flames. Unforunately your attempt failed.

As far as the actual scale is concerned I don't believe you can really rank the *hardest* classes for lack of a better word. However there are some classes that stand out as the most simple and I think you could semi-accurately rank those.

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Kahna

I disagree with Templars being easy. It is a harder class to play than many realize, which is why alot of Templars out there suck hardcore (and most of em don't even know it). Elrohn, Reznor, Ezreal, myself and the rest of our little Templar gang will back that up.

Healers have to pay attention, micro-manage spells / power consumption etc but paying attention is by far the hardest. The group doesn't insta-die if a DPS / Utility class is AFK, but if the tank and / or healer aren't there, the group's usually fucked (assuming they're fighting average + difficulty content).

3 cheers for the newb Templars crying for more DPS AA's

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Templars are easy

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Naie

This is a good idea for a thread...okay so i was wondering, where do swashbucklers fall into this? They look like they would be a busy class to play with having to maintain a steady dps while avoiding aoe [avoiding the aoe isnt always that tough as stated before] and throwing your correct debuffs [ I dont know anything really about the class this just is just how it seems to me] can any swashy confirm their class's ease?

Edit : Also, how about rangers? so the majority agree their dps isnt the most jaw dropping thing, but does this mean that one has to adapt their playstyle and perfect it to put out the higher numbers? does this make it a tougher class?

just curious and seeking some info

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Ishbu

Before too many people get all hurt, no class is hard and all classes can be played above average to an extent.

Anything that is one dimensional is the easiest as far as im concerned. Those very few classes that have multiple rolls are the ones that are ever so slightly more difficult. For example, a swashbuckler in a heroic group can be really versitile, but in a raid they are fairly one dimensional. A raid swash is easy to play well, a heroic swash is a bit more difficult.

Just my top 3 easiest raid classes to play well would be

Brigand
Almost any fighter
A non tank group healer


3 hardest classes to play well would be

Off tank group tank
Either enchanter
Bard

Yeah bards and enchanters are looked at as buff bitch classes but to play them well you have to do a lot of different things. The off tank tank has to go from offensive mode to defensive (and that means more than just a stance if they are good) and be ready to do that if need be. Other classes in a raid just arent creative enough.

My 3 easiest group classes to play

Sorcerer
Predator
Tank

The 3 hardest for a group setting would be

Summoner
Rogue
Solo healing Cleric

Summoners and rogues have the benefit of being a top end jack of all trades. They can tank, they can crowd control, they can do it all basically and if they are played well they are like having more than 6 people in a group. Then I put cleric because if your in a good, fast moving group there is no way in fuck a cleric as the only healer could keep the people alive. I dont care if you think your the best cleric on earth, there is no way in fuck you could ever keep my xp group alive.

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Calirian

I'd add Wardens to your Easiest Class to Play list. Could be just because all throughout EQ1 I played a cleric, so knowing when and how to heal, and what your most mana efficient heal tactics are, makes it a bit easier for me. In all honesty though it doesn't take a huge amount of intelligence to realize that if someone is getting hit you heal them. Wardens getting their regens make it a lot easier to play them and keep people in exp groups or raids topped off.

I do agree though that Warlocks are one of your harder classes to play and play well. Anyone can spam nukes all day long but you really have to know how to maximize your dps versus your aggro. There are so many variables to take into account especially on raids, that a warlocks job isn't just point-click-nuke..gotta involve some thinking. For me because I've been raiding so long with Cali it's all instant but for someone newer to the class, or even a seasoned EQ2 player, I'd say that aggro management vs. good dps would be a concern.

TANGARTH

nemesis sucks you know, other than the boots.

Scafloc

...what? The main reason I retired my troub was because it was boring and took no skill, and I considered myself one of the best gamewide.

Apart from timing Bladedance/Turnstrike correctly, coordinating Jesters with the Brigands and using PotM on large encounters, there's no difference between playing a troub and playing a brigand. We both just sit in AE and hit the mob, the difference is if the brigand wasn't trying, people would notice. I won't talk about using CAs/spells and doing DPS as that's the same really for all scouts.

I really don't think two spells and an AA make us one of the hardest classes to play. The fact is, we could go afk and be nearly as effective - why do you think I was always the first person to go AF and bot a class we actually needed?

Illuminator

This thread is making me feel the need to roll a necro.

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