kyros

lots of ranting... but there was one bit that caught my attention.


i remember reading patch notes that used to say EVERYTHING... heck they even used to actually show up when i clicked the button on the patcher. now i usually get stuff from 2 updates ago while i sit for 5 minutes as it downloads something new. when i do get to read them, there's never any explanation. they used to explain why something was being changed, and even used some humor. not only were they informative, i found them entertaining and interesting. it's an unfortunate and sad trend. bring back the patch notes, end stealth nerfage.

Snark

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Sheya

For example: 1 out of 11 chances to get a master for your class instead of 1 out of 24, same thing for class-only gear (intelligent loot system has been implemented only a few months ago and in just a few zones) or trying to make different yet balance 2 variations of the same class which they cannot do no matter how hard they try.

Every fantasy game has 4 archetypes, duh, some just call some class "hybrid of this and that" and call it a day. The mistake of eq2 was labeling the 4 archetypes as a feature, promising that they'd be able to function equally well no matter the situation.
Anyway, consolidating to 12 or so could be good because they could expand AA trees, making more varied mix of the same class according to guild needs or playing style choice, this just to list one reason. Pinski said it much better than me.

Even if this is eq2 flames, I don't like to flame other people and I won't tell you that you are a moron, but just uninformed.
WoW started with 40 men raids (MC, BWL, etc.) and 20 men raids (ZG) then dropped to 25 with the release of the expansion, because Blizzard figured that putting together 25 retards was easier than putting together 40, thus more people got to experience the content they made increasing retention rate.

More scripted and more varied are not mutually exclusive as in there is not a single script equal to another. Look for a fight that is the same as Vael or 4horsemen or even those "easy" ones in molten core. Each fight is as unique as it can be. As for all raids in all games, once you have the strat down and a sufficient level of gear, you beat it, nothing new here.

There is no case where in wow you can raid with more than 40, so there you are wrong, unless you mean those 4 useless contested dragons that no one really wanted to kill. The 2 contested bosses in the vanilla wow are not zergable by any means, in fact 1 more person adding over 40 and it's gg-wipe-time thanks to an anti zerg code.


WoW and eq2 quests are pretty much the same thing, with eq2 coming on top thanks to few good questlines in my opinion. Both games use those kill 10 xyz quests to tell some story and to mask the grind. In both games you can chose to grind, it happens that this is a much more viable tactic in eq2 than in wow, where "efficient questing" is the fastest way to level.

Damn, what a fucking wall of text I wrote.

Raina

yes but it was highly legible and well spaced, A+

tomthumb

Go to FoH to get an informed scoop on:

EQ1
WOW
upcoming betas


As for EQ2, however, they are bunch of clueless noobs. Some casual assholes formed a guild on AB, raided Courts, and now write walls of text about EQ2.

Derf

I like FOH, because it gives me a different perspective. I don't agree with a lot of what they say, and a lot of their complaints sound pretty silly (ie. The Hiram Key rant about housing) Criticism shouldn't necessarily be dismissed because of what level they achieved, rather it should be taken as a perspective that these people were turned off by feature Y. It's helpful to devs and for me if I'm thinking about introducing someone to the game.

Widem

it does matter what lvl they achieve. you cannot possibly think that even someone who has even recently hit 70 has mastered the intracacies of the combat system much less his own class. Now take people who are lvl 35 and commenting like they even understand what this game has to offer.

People on the FoH boards take one aspect in which they dont like and completely disregard everything else in the game for the instantaneous gratification of what they want changed NOW. The way you can spot a noob and someone who doesnt know what they are or should be talking about is spotting in this way.

It's hardcore manafesting itself now with the bitching about the level increase. The level increase is only necessary b/c of the same noob people bitching it wasn't fair that they were so much less powerful than raiding counterparts. This bitching created something we now know as the mit curves. Well guess what, live with what you asked for b/c the curve has reached it max and the only thing left to do is increase it. Great job. The only other options is to go back on what you believe and get rid of the curve and be forever in the top guild's dust or nerf every item, every ability, and every encounter in game to accomidate the new expansion.

I really dont care about newbs commenting on which quests/dungeouns weren't fun or whatever but when you break it down to talking about serious changes with spells its way more likely they just are inexperienced and dont know how to play well yet.

Sheya

Some do it, not everyone. Sadly those doing it are the most vocal members of the boards and those you'll notice more often.

Stinkfinger

yeah there are no official DPS tiers.

Just DPS toons, where some have utility, survivability and solo ability,

and others DON'T.

good move.

Flaming Homo

You want threads of in-bred WoW fucktards whining about EQ2?