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Old 10-26-2007, 06:33 PM  
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Old 10-26-2007, 06:43 PM  
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lawl, WW 3rd on Mayong

Any retard knows that every guild killed Mayong after the same patch, I guess we are basing ranks off of being unlocked from zones then
Same goes for Avatars. Who ever got the certain ones to spawn got the WW first when they started dieing on a WW scale. Paradigm was ww 1st guild to kill Tranq. But thats because we happened to get it right away when other servers didnt even get her to spawn. So although ww 1st can be based on order killed you have to look at the availability or spawn rate of the mob on others servers.

I can only see mobs like: Phhm, Cmayong, Woushi, Instance Mayong, Fear, AoM be the contenders for WW firsts, seconds or whatever for EoF, since those mobs where pretty much defined EoF as an expansion for the toughest mobs at the time. Even though when phhm was fixed he went from impossible to gimp as fuck and everyone pretty much killed him the same day. Even fear was beatable but there are servers, like Oasis, where we have only seen Fear once ever. So even though guilds could kill fear it was all about the availability on the given server.

That being said who killed what in what order doesnt even matter in the grand scheme of things except for epeen rights. As long as a guild can kill mobs and do is consitantly and stay together; all in all everyone who can kill those encounters gets the same lewtz.
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Same goes for Avatars. Who ever got the certain ones to spawn got the WW first when they started dieing on a WW scale. Paradigm was ww 1st guild to kill Tranq. But thats because we happened to get it right away when other servers didnt even get her to spawn. So although ww 1st can be based on order killed you have to look at the availability or spawn rate of the mob on others servers.

I can only see mobs like: Phhm, Cmayong, Woushi, Instance Mayong, Fear, AoM be the contenders for WW firsts, seconds or whatever for EoF, since those mobs where pretty much defined EoF as an expansion for the toughest mobs at the time. Even though when phhm was fixed he went from impossible to gimp as fuck and everyone pretty much killed him the same day. Even fear was beatable but there are servers, like Oasis, where we have only seen Fear once ever. So even though guilds could kill fear it was all about the availability on the given server.

That being said who killed what in what order doesnt even matter in the grand scheme of things except for epeen rights. As long as a guild can kill mobs and do is consitantly and stay together; all in all everyone who can kill those encounters gets the same lewtz.
Your guild couldn't do it consistently. Grats on killing Instance Mayong a 2nd time weeks after your first kill. Or grats on killing CMayong a 2nd time weeks after your first kill of that. GRATS ON YOUR CONSISTENCY! Wait, you didn't have any. Grats on being shit.
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Old 10-26-2007, 06:50 PM  
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lol i remember hearing about that video, i had assumed it was some newb in treasured gear who thought he was hot, lol i had no idea it came from someone whos supposed to be in one of the better guilds, anyway..lol @ you.

on a serious note, what were you expecting? when you made that video did you think oh man, all the necros in the game are going to want to be like me, i can solo a lvl 35 zone at 70! or was there something else going through your head?
Yeah, I made that video over a year ago. I still get people asking for strats on how to beat nek castle. /flex

And no, I made it because I was messing around with filming and making video's at the time. Never realized how famous it would become.
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Old 10-26-2007, 07:03 PM  
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You yourself just said ww1's on avatars mean shit because of random spawns, then try to claim that it means something on mischief? Grats on having it spawn more than on other servers, you killed it your first time on its 4th spawn? We haven't even seen it 4 times.

Fact is, Mischief is a fucking joke. The mob is not hard, the mob does not need some uber fantastic fucking specially built raid. Why did SD not kill it first? We missed something, plain and simple. We got it into the 40's consistently without that something we missed, when we got that something we missed we first pulled it. There is no luck, there is no magic, one thing makes this mob a complete fucking joke, and then it got nerfed again. The fact that anyone here is trying to make it out like this mob is some uber fucking hard thing that you are leet fucking special for killing is retarded. Not only is it a random mob that was not up equally for all servers nor up at the same time, or even the same number of times, there is only one thing you need to know and you can kill this mob if you aren't guilded with a bunch of retards.
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Old 10-26-2007, 07:09 PM  
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You yourself just said ww1's on avatars mean shit because of random spawns, then try to claim that it means something on mischief? Grats on having it spawn more than on other servers, you killed it your first time on its 4th spawn? We haven't even seen it 4 times.

Fact is, Mischief is a fucking joke. The mob is not hard, the mob does not need some uber fantastic fucking specially built raid. Why did SD not kill it first? We missed something, plain and simple. We got it into the 40's consistently without that something we missed, when we got that something we missed we first pulled it. There is no luck, there is no magic, one thing makes this mob a complete fucking joke, and then it got nerfed again. The fact that anyone here is trying to make it out like this mob is some uber fucking hard thing that you are leet fucking special for killing is retarded. Not only is it a random mob that was not up equally for all servers nor up at the same time, or even the same number of times, there is only one thing you need to know and you can kill this mob if you aren't guilded with a bunch of retards.
I agree. And for the record it has spawned a total of 3 times on our server. 1st time we didnt kill it. 2 weeks later it spawned again and that is when we killed it. It just spawned yesterday and we killed it again. So that makes 3 times total.
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Old 10-26-2007, 07:15 PM  
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You agree, grats on get ww3'd on something that doesn't fucking matter.

The only guild that deserves a grats is NPU for realizing something then leaking it to everyone else.
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Old 10-26-2007, 07:20 PM  
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You mean the competition that's been driven away so many times it's not funny? First there was CL, then there was TDS and Cataclysm. Then there was Quiesence. There is no competition on Nektulos because we drove them away. I was here in KoS when TDS and Cataclysm where here. They were your typical #2/3 guilds on the server. They tried, and failed a lot, after being dominated they decided to try again elsewhere. Obviously TDS decided to quit a few months later, and Cataclysm is still in the same position they were on Nektulos, except now on Permafrost.

If you were on Nektulos, you'd be dominated as much as possible and probably want to leave the server or just not bother trying contesteds because you'd be dominated at everything. Face it, I may not have been here while CL was here, but still they left the server, and now they're a top guild on a server. That tells me, obviously Disso was enough competition for a guild who is now top on their server, and that if necessary we can kill mobs whenever they spawn, but let's face it. Why the fuck would I want to kill an Avatar when it spawns since the spawn timer is based on when it spawns, not when it dies.

I just don't feel a need to do it. I'm sorry your guild hasn't been able to put enough pressure on your server to be able to force guilds to crumble/disband or to just plain demoralize them into not pulling mobs. Here's a tip, try to be less of a joke and kill a mob every time the instance is up after your first kill, rather than waiting a month for the 2nd kill and you won't be laughed at on a world-wide scale like you are now. I'm sorry Utopi, but your guild isn't good enough to demoralize other guilds on the server. Don't like it? Maybe you should try harder and try killing IS Mayong every week since your first kill, rather than skipping it for a month because of magical portals porting your tank to CL mid-fight.

Unfortunately, you are wrong about being in the same position. Now we actually can get recruits, and pulls on avatars when they spawn during our raid times. Even if we don't kill the avatars/contested we at least get to see them. lol Nektulos was dead in terms of recruiting anyone as you probably can tell. Now the feeder guilds you did have are gone which makes it a little tougher for you guys to recruit on your server that had any decent quality. TDS/TFC/Ex-Cata pretty much make up half of Defiance now. lol So that is kind of ironic in itself. But, being WW you still get the cross server recruits, which has pretty much kept you in existance. Which explains all of the new guys like Dants, Kall, Xenobe, and the rest that joined you right before we left. An now I guess they feel they have earned that right to speak like the oldschool Dissolution after this expansion. Though they are not the true oldschool hardcore Dissolution team who imo truely kicked that ass. If you can down AOM you are far from dying imo. Which is why you sarcastically joke about your whole guild disbanding. But, I wouldn't say you were the sole reason we left the server. There where many factors involved besides the obvious factors above. But, we still focus on instances like we did on Nektulos and most of our members can only raid during our scheduled raid times. The main reason we didn't get through the instances faster is because of recruiting on Nektulos. This time though it paid off with the transfer because we were able to complete all the instanced content before the next expansion. Which has not been the case in past expansions for Cata. We really never did have a chance of getting contested being focused instances on either server and our members raid times. Defiance and Dissolution both own the servers and both earned what you got. So I am not sure comparing us in terms of a rival guild and running us off the server is fair because we never got to the hardcore classification. Thanks for thinking of us in those terms. Your best bet would be staying on track and comparing CL to Dissolution. I think that would be fair.

Anyway, gratz to all the guilds that have downed AOM. That is truely a feat for a bogus encounter. It will be interesting to see who comes out on top of ROK.
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Old 10-26-2007, 07:33 PM  
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Unfortunately, you are wrong about being in the same position. Now we actually can get recruits, and pulls on avatars when they spawn during our raid times. Even if we don't kill the avatars/contested we at least get to see them. lol Nektulos was dead in terms of recruiting anyone as you probably can tell. Now the feeder guilds you did have are gone which makes it a little tougher for you guys to recruit on your server that had any decent quality. TDS/TFC/Ex-Cata pretty much make up half of Defiance now. lol So that is kind of ironic in itself. But, being WW you still get the cross server recruits, which has pretty much kept you in existance. Which explains all of the new guys like Dants, Kall, Xenobe, and the rest that joined you right before we left. An now I guess they feel they have earned that right to speak like the oldschool Dissolution after this expansion. Though they are not the true oldschool hardcore Dissolution team who imo truely kicked that ass. If you can down AOM you are far from dying imo. Which is why you sarcastically joke about your whole guild disbanding. But, I wouldn't say you were the sole reason we left the server. There where many factors involved besides the obvious factors above. But, we still focus on instances like we did on Nektulos and most of our members can only raid during our scheduled raid times. The main reason we didn't get through the instances faster is because of recruiting on Nektulos. This time though it paid off with the transfer because we were able to complete all the instanced content before the next expansion. Which has not been the case in past expansions for Cata. We really never did have a chance of getting contested being focused instances on either server and our members raid times. Defiance and Dissolution both own the servers and both earned what you got. So I am not sure comparing us in terms of a rival guild and running us off the server is fair because we never got to the hardcore classification. Thanks for thinking of us in those terms. Your best bet would be staying on track and comparing CL to Dissolution. I think that would be fair.

Anyway, gratz to all the guilds that have downed AOM. That is truely a feat for a bogus encounter. It will be interesting to see who comes out on top of ROK.
Who cares how dead the server was we never recruited from it =/
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Old 10-26-2007, 07:42 PM  
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Thank you for that apology skel, way to step up and shoulder the blame. Bet you were wishing you had just said what u finally said about killing aom to clear for a good avatar up front instead of hoping it would just go away...

Good luck on getting your reputation back, history shows that it can happen.

I can go back to admiring all you big dogs from a safe distance on my porch again.
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