AoM - Page 22

Phrozen · 10-06-2007, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Legate

Its not NPU's fault that you as a guild leader don't want to put in the effort to kill this mob. Your worse SD, and the other guilds complaining about this mob. SD and the other guilds are actually attempting this mob. Its just a fact.

Hmm, they've put a good few nights in to it, I know, I was watching.

But with the requirements to get the kill, they simply cannot field the raid to do it and they know it, and I know where they are coming from 30+ rosters are SHIT, you don't join a top end guild to sit.

Legate · 10-06-2007, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Phrozen

Hmm, they've put a good few nights in to it, I know, I was watching.

But with the requirements to get the kill, they simply cannot field the raid to do it and they know it, and I know where they are coming from 30+ rosters are SHIT, you don't join a top end guild to sit.

Pretty much, but your in a top guild, man, I'm pretty casual and I have multiple 70's, I'm sure Disso can pull a few extra healers outta their ass if I can lol.

Darenlok · 10-06-2007, 06:52 PM

I thought this might help out the Disso crew a little bit.

I made Widem's sig! I'm world wide bitches!!!

Nastharl · 10-06-2007, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinski

Uhhh, you should read the thread again. NPU kills AoM, SD claims it's been nerfed due to their dev inside info, NPU recoils that saying it hasn't been nerfed and that those nerfs that SD is talking about are due to go into the next GU. Disso sits and doesn't give a flying fuck about the encounter and has said before it was even killed nobody should give a fuck about it dying because the encounter is a big pile of shit in its current form in the fact that it doesn't require "healers," it requires "curers." Which they should just make Mages be able to play the role as a curer and everything would go along just fine, but since they can't you end up with a raid overstacked with priests playing cure-bitch.

That's the thread summary, but since you didn't even bother to read this thread at all, you have just been deemed a complete idiot.

My bad

NPU Kills AoM

Disso and SD fail to kill AoM

Disso says This encounter is dumb, we're not doing it (because we can't) and you're dumb for being able to do it QQ.

SD say OMG U CHAET.

Trumak · 10-06-2007, 10:12 PM

Grats to anyone who is willing to spend the amount of time and ridiculous class requirements to kill this mob. It was not just Calaglin's feelings it was all of ours. I'd rather get my wisdom teeth pulled again than pull this mob as is. It's not fun. It's not creative. And the fact that so many people are praising this type of encounter really makes me wonder about the majority of the raiding community.

EQ1 actually had challenging encounters without being annoying as fuck. I hope this is not a trend in rok or raiding in this game will die.

pagansaint · 10-06-2007, 10:53 PM

What trend?

Phasing out anyone who can not cure from even DPS slots?
Stun/Stifles with no duration, just last untill cured?
Mobs that stun/stifle many, many times turning the encounter into who can cure the most?

I'd ask which one, but they all suck.

But fact of the matter is, whining and bitching about its current implementation doesn't change the fact that they killed it, as is, and people who have been trying have either not gotten it yet or given up and whine about how the encounter works.

oddyophile · 10-06-2007, 11:02 PM

So anyone else think this encounter would have been just about right without the cure changes?

edit: meant to say without.

Trumak · 10-07-2007, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by pagansaint

What trend?

Phasing out anyone who can not cure from even DPS slots?
Stun/Stifles with no duration, just last untill cured?
Mobs that stun/stifle many, many times turning the encounter into who can cure the most?

I'd ask which one, but they all suck.

But fact of the matter is, whining and bitching about its current implementation doesn't change the fact that they killed it, as is, and people who have been trying have either not gotten it yet or given up and whine about how the encounter works.

Yea that is a great attitude. Let's praise one guild in the game that can accommodate a ridiculous set of circumstances. No encounter should render a majority of classes useless and make others necessary.

If you bought a new computer and it didn't perform as well as it should but it still worked does that mean you should just roll over and not bitch to who you bought it from? No you paid for something and deserve it to work properly. This encounter does not work properly for 99% of the raiding community and that is bullshit.

I have no problem with the fact they killed it grats to them being able to meet the extreme criteria necessary. But the fact remains this encounter sucks ass and that needs to be voiced.

Pinski · 10-07-2007, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by oddyophile

So anyone else think this encounter would have been just about right without the cure changes?

edit: meant to say without.

Wouldn't matter at all. Cure Changes would only have affected the AEs, which honestly aren't even a problem to cure, the big problem is the Hostile/Beneficial Shields. Nobody is having problem with the AEs killing their raid from not being cured, they're having problems with the Hostile/Beneficial Shield not being cured, which is just dumb.

Wow, so basically because I won't over-recruit and have people sitting out 100% of the time because if you have 30+ people in your guild you WILL have people sitting out, which basically tells me you have too many people and that you should cut your slack from being there. There is no point in having a raid force of 30+ people if you can only field 24 at a time, because those 6+ people will be sitting out when you have everybody online.

gungo · 10-07-2007, 01:01 AM

So are you saying this encounter is impossible with say 7 healers?

Thats a big claim to corner yourself in, becuase as soon as a guild kills it with 7 your entire argument just fell on its face.

Of course what will most likely happen is the nerf to adds hitpoints will come in and then someone will probably kill this mob with 7 healers which really shouldn't make a difference with the cures/beneficial debuff, but hey at least you will have the future nerf to use as your scapegoat.

Really crying that you perceive this encounter requires 8 healers becaue that is what NPU used still sounds like your crying.