Account Sharing - Page 3

Rinion · 10-31-2006, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmoogles

You are putting a third party "bot" program in the same sentence as account sharing? Your an idiot !! People who have a third party program do that to profit from the game. People who account share are helping there guild. Two different things but yes they both violate the EULA but which one do you really think is worst?

huh what? really? so uh ACT parser isnt a 3rd party program? its not from sony and you the end user didnt make it...so um 3rd party? Yes straight up bot programs dont really compare do they? I mean they are AFK leveling/benefits.

But wait....if you share your account info and they level you up or use you for someone elses benefit....

wait how are they not the same again?? Either way someone is profiting by violating the EULA either the guild is profiting or the individual is profiting, there is no difference either way profits are made in one form or another.

now whose stupid sir?

Niber · 10-31-2006, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rinion

huh what? really? so uh ACT parser isnt a 3rd party program? its not from sony and you the end user didnt make it...so um 3rd party? Yes straight up bot programs dont really compare do they? I mean they are AFK leveling/benefits.

But wait....if you share your account info and they level you up or use you for someone elses benefit....

wait how are they not the same again?? Either way someone is profiting by violating the EULA either the guild is profiting or the individual is profiting, there is no difference either way profits are made in one form or another.

now whose stupid sir?

ACT is not a bannable third party program. They distinction is made by in the fact that it doesn't intercept the data stream so it does not break the EULA like a bot (or crafting) program that is reading from the screen. Thats why you really can't compare the two. There's also a whole paragraph in the EULA on unattended macro or bot programs.

Quote:

9. You may not use any software to modify the Software to change Game play. You may not create, facilitate, host, link to or provide any other means through which the Game may be played by others, such as through server emulators. You may not decrypt or modify any data transmitted between client and server and you may not use, post, host or distribute macros, “bots” or other programs which would allow unattended game play or which otherwise impact game play. You may not take any action which imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on our infrastructure. Except in connection with Station Exchange and subject to all of the provisions of the Station Exchange Service Agreement, you may not buy, sell or auction (or host or facilitate the ability to allow others to buy, sell or auction) any Game account, characters, items, coin or copyrighted material or any other intellectual property owned or controlled by us or our licensors without first obtaining our express written permission.

And when you're say sharing accounts to level up, you assume a lot -- for instance I have maybe 10 peoples infos, and I've never leveled any of them.

NM FOUND IT! :>

Pinski · 10-31-2006, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niber

ACT is not a bannable third party program. They distinction is made by in the fact that it doesn't intercept the data stream so it does not break the EULA like a bot (or crafting) program that is reading from the screen. Thats why you really can't compare the two.

And when you're say sharing accounts to level up, you assume a lot -- for instance I have maybe 10 peoples infos, and I've never leveled any of them.

Technically most crafting programs don't intercept the data stream either. The key is that it is called unattended playing.
"You may not decrypt or modify any data transmitted between client and server and you may not use, post, host or distribute macros, “bots” or other programs which would allow unattended game play or which otherwise impact game play"
That is why bots are against the EULA, as are crafting macros, even if you are watching it.

Rinion · 10-31-2006, 12:24 PM

right understood Niber but well.

what does a bot do? play you while you are AFK
what does account sharing do? Play you while your AFK
whats the difference?

now if your using a 3rd party program to Warp and speed hack then ya sure I see that being a bannable offense.

But cracking down on afk Botting and not account sharing is VERY hypocritical.

Pinski · 10-31-2006, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rinion

right understood Niber but well.

what does a bot do? play you while you are AFK
what does account sharing do? Play you while your AFK
whats the difference?

now if your using a 3rd party program to Warp and speed hack then ya sure I see that being a bannable offense.

But cracking down on afk Botting and not account sharing is VERY hypocritical.

Main reason why it's there is so they don't have to deal with people having their characters deleted from others.

Calthine · 10-31-2006, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rinion

But cracking down on afk Botting and not account sharing is VERY hypocritical.

They do crack down on both. But they have to prove it, they don't just arbitarily ban.

BTW, the one farmer I helped get banned I actually reported for account sharing.

Rinion · 10-31-2006, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinski

Main reason why it's there is so they don't have to deal with people having their characters deleted from others.

True ill give you that. But there are other ways around it for example in a MMO called SilkRoad Online it takes 3 days for a charcter to be deleted giving you plenty of time to change your mind. I mean there are plenty of Easy fixes they could implement, the most obvious of which would be just enforcing the rules they have.

I mean is it hard to figure out when they see someone log in from a IP located in california then a IP located in Florida within afew hours of each other multiple times? I dont know aobut you but I dont posses the ability to instant teleport myself...

Schmoogles · 10-31-2006, 01:01 PM

Bots profit from selling plat. They have websites to support them selling plat for most MMO's. They profit in RL not the game.

People who account share are profiting from being able to log a needed class in to kill a contested mob or a mob period. They profit from having a bigger epenis now because the other guild on the server doesn't get the contested.

Rinion · 10-31-2006, 01:10 PM

oh right because Bot programs are only avalible to people sell plat on ebay. man al lthose chinese workers are going to be so dispointed there being replaced by a program.

Your Wrong.

I know people that used bot programs to level there tradeskillers and they told me it was to make jewlery for there guild mates.

But by your defination that ok right? because they did it for there guild and not personal gain?

Bot programs AND account sharing both = the Account owner AFK playing

P.S. Ever hear of buying a 'power level' hmm its account sharing and someone is profiting by the exchange of real $$

So again, whats the fucking difference and how can anyone condem one with out condeming the other?

krohm · 10-31-2006, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niber

=p

Your a bad man....