Passion for your class... - Page 6

Zerktard · 11-01-2007, 12:48 AM

Well my Main was a zerker which i really enjoyed playing. Unless amounts of bloodshed. I still enjoy playing him, But lately i have been playing a Coercer. Coercers are ok dont get me wrong but they just suck imo lol.

From playing a zerker and going to a coercer, i might as well become a librian. They bore the living crap out of me,

So yeah i have no passion to play a coercer but i will play it to help my guild. Prefer the Zerker which i took time and somewhat effort to play and get as good as i wanted to play. Killing mobs killing my grp members what fun!

As for everything else of what ppl said.

Quote: From Manyak

[IMO, the absolute BEST thing they could do to EQ2 is to merge most of the subclasses. Brigand with Swashy, Fury with Warden, Wizard with Warlock, etc. The differences between the classes dont mean shit. So rangers use a bow and assassins use daggers? Whatever. With merges like that, every resulting class will have its own unique niche that noone else can fill.]

Will there ever be unique-ness?

Nope, there has never been unique-ness niether will there be because once someone gets a perfect setup of spells to be freckin uber 1337sauce ppl will start copying it.

Bring Back Lore of you class, Class meaning and definitions, make urself a Trap finding elite class. And all that other crap that is missing.

And unique, you'll be, not.

Salty · 11-01-2007, 12:57 AM

SOE says "The Coercer is capable of subduing enemies, sending them into a paralyzing state of fascination or causing them to flee in uncontrollable terror. Master of domination, Coercers can subjugate the mind of another, taking complete control and forcing an unwitting creature to do their bidding. "

EverQuest II - Massively Multiplayer Role-Playing Game

Sounds great don't it? I dunno, maybe my vision has gotten so bad that I just can't see the part that says "mana pump/buff whore". Yeah, that bitter.

I had lots of passion for the coercer, until I cleansed myself of denial (and SOE) and admitted that the class will never be what SOE describes it as, nor will it ever be viewed by the people that benefit from what it currently is, as being broken for not being what SOE advertises it as.

So yeah...passion gone, account gone, monthly bill gone, headache gone.

Sword of the new world FTW!

Waiting for the humor that is someone defending SOE and the state of coercers aka sucking lockeyes cock.

Biggest douche ever.

Mr-Furious · 11-01-2007, 02:31 AM

I play a bruiser. Tons of passion for the toon, and zero faith in SOE to do anything remotely beneficial for it.

nigh · 11-01-2007, 03:14 AM

I love all the classes I've played - I have 6 level 70's. Each of them represents a different aspect of myself - a different side to how I see myself. Somedays I feel more like a swashbuckler, full of valor and honor, other days more like a brigand, sometimes I'm maternal and full of fire like my warden - she was originally a fury and for the longest time had bright red hair. Sometimes I feel like a guardian, protective and a leader. I probably put way too much into it. Meh. But that's what makes it fun to me, that's what makes it 'addicting' to me, and sets it apart from single player games.

I hate letting other people play my characters, the first time I ever let someone play my warden I was gritting my teeth the entire time, I felt like I'd sold my soul or something.

In regards to losing that interest... yeah... I lose it a lot. It comes and goes. That's usually what results in me rolling another character. My warlock and my guardian are probably the characters that I enjoy playing the most simply because they're actually the least like me in real life. I'm not much of a leader and I'm a "fixer." My warden I almost hate to play now because I identify so much with her (she was my first char).

I agree that *some* of the classes could maybe be merged, warlock and wizard really do not have enough differences. IMO when I think of a wizard, they do TOTAL destruction. So do warlocks. Perhaps they could learn warlocks closer towards debuffing or something, disease etc. I would not want to see brigand and swashbuckler combined, they ARE different, at least in the sense of what each class is. Actual gameplay is virtually identical, which I agree could be bettered. Warden and fury are redundant.

Sidia · 11-01-2007, 05:52 AM

If SoE ever merge Brigand and Swashie, I would be completely pissed! From someone who betrayed Swash to brig I can tell you the classes are completely different, roleplay wise and raid wise!

A swashie focus on hate transfer/dps. They are noble, and I must say <3 swashie looks. While, a Brigand focus on debuff and can do pretty good dps. The Brigand is a crafty theif ( hence why I opted to ignore what I was adviced and got Sidia her "theif" title ).A brigand doesn't have hate transfer and I get annoyed when people confuse me with a swashie

and swashies don't have as good debuffs as a briggy.

My two characters mean the world to me, Sidia because she is me and how I feel. While Wocky ( fury) is how I think I should be. I admit I'm alittle obessed with Sidia tho, always drawing pictures and writting stories bout her

Snooze · 11-01-2007, 07:07 AM

I don't know but it feels that a "passion of my class" grows weaker and weaker after each GU by SoE!
Sure I understand they are just trying to aim for a class balance, but imho they are just overburdened with 24 classes!

This leads to really to some classes growing weaker and weaker, and the fun factor going up in smoke! As stated in this topic a lot of people did start off as Sk or Monk, rerolled to a new class. Well I'm one of em as well, plaid an SK for the longest time ... and while I agree, yes we can solo and be decent in groups - SKs have to fight Hard, for a valid reason to be in a raid. Similar to some other classes!
Another class, the warden, gods pre lu13 ... today they are often the 5th wheel!

At times I think it could be better if SoE would just kill SKs & Paladins as a sub class, and only create "Crusaders" and have em pick based on an AA system their focusing abilties, like take a bit form the Paldin skills and bits of SKs and make the crusader class "more welcome"! Same with other classes like maybe Brawleres and/or Druids ...

Gunthore · 11-01-2007, 08:25 AM

I don't think they need to merge classes, just make each class feel unique, and they could do it, if they would step away from their cookie cutter archetype system.

SoE has 4 cookie cutters (the archetypes) and then 6 different types of sprinkles for each cookie. We don't play the archetype system anymore, but SoE still bases class development on it, that all classes are equal within the archetype.

It would be cool if SoE would move away from archetype train of thought and truly make each class unqiue while still filling it's primary role. It wouldn't be easy but I think it could be done. SoE won't do it though, too many people would complain once class x got skill A and class y got skill B. SoE, wanting to balance things, would water both skills down to equality and there'll you have it. Everyone's happy and no one's unique. Maybe with a little less happniess.

Xanoth · 11-01-2007, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Tiggin

But i can identify with the look, style, and overall feel of my character

*cough* illusionist EoF set *cough*

i certainly don't identify with having a potato sack on my head.

appearance slots let you change your style, but it didn't really do anything for me to make me like my characters any more. while appearance is important its just the icing on the cake really. can be easily picked off and ignored if you don't like it. ofc its great when you are given something you like, but the core of the class still matters the most.

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Originally Posted by kyros

look and feel are extremely important aspects of a game like this.
ask people who don't like WoW why they don't, and i bet most of them will put something about appearance on the list.

i've tried WoW a few times. more to simply understand the game, why its popular, whats good about it, and if any of that would be good to take to other games (in that respect WoW seems to do nothing new to the genre other than have a well polished relativly bug free (simple) game).

but as you said, fuck me running around cartoonland for 30 minutes with bouncey castles in the background... i just can't do it.

ofc some people claim WoW graphics are the best out there, with their low rez textures, low polly count, etc. to each their own.

i do think the archtype system and underlying genericnes to all classes within that archtype is certainly a factor in what contributes to the main issue.

Derf · 11-01-2007, 10:01 AM

I agree. This is something I've thought about for a while, and I think it's the poor implementation of the archetype system that leads to a lot of issues with the mechanics of this game. I would like to think that somewhere in the bowels of the SOE offices they are looking at the 24 classes and saying "How can we make class x stand out from class y?" but I'm not so hopeful. 24 classes is a lot in a MMO environment, trying to get them balanced to soloing, grouping, raiding, and apparently pvp (though that's debatable) is a huge undertaking.

I would be more willing to stick to a class if I had the ability to personalize him, and indeed make him a creation of myself. As it is we all end up wearing the same armour and going down the same AA lines with only slight variations.

Stinkfinger · 11-01-2007, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochy

And I will say it once again if you think Assassins are gimp you suck at the class.

And to keep from going too far off topic I played a monk for a year and a half but Assassin is by far my favorite class since I main switched a year ago and couldn't see myself playing anything else.

lol I knew you could not resist chiming in.

no, I don't suck at my class. I just take a broader non emotional view of the game, and draw a conclusion that way. I look at the dps other classes put out and what they do and their roles and compare.

you--I am an assassin, i have fun,..((and so dont i or i would not play)) ,so therefore assassin's rule and if you don't agree with me, I will say you suck and threaten to ban and block your posts.-----ha ha