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Originally Posted by Niber
I hope your not as ignorant when you're sober!
Given, Ultor is a complete retard for putting any stock in clearing the Avatars. The fact still remains that Avatar of Fear is the hardest encounter in EoF and Defiance was the 3rd (or 4th) guild to kill it. Do we claim game wide supremacy? No, but it's still a considerable feat. And in my opinion (along with other factors) definitely puts us top 10. What you probably fail to realize is that 98% of Defiance's roster have join dates of 6 months or less. We've undergone a complete transformation from the top down and in no way resemble the guild that existed in the beginning of EoF. We're up and coming for sure but we have a lot of recent achievements to bring the the credibility table.
I can't remember the last thing AM killed without controversy, or CL. No offense to either but obviously there is a lot of parity once you escape the SD/NPU/Disso tier. Hopefully there will be better measuring sticks in RoK although the taint of being a beta guild I'm sure will linger for many of your "top 10".
EDIT: PS. SoN? Are you kidding! And Fable hasn't been the same since they lost their raid leader. (What was that Troubs name? He owned.)
I imagine I'd go something like this (considering current roster):
1. NPU 2. Disso/SD 3. AM/Strike 4. everyone else
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I knew i'd accidently put something wrong or not explain something clearly enough last night and some guild would post the "we ar e better then that" or "you forgot about us" posts. But I feel if everyone doesn't care about pride for maybe 3 seconds, to take the time to see where im coming from then what I said would make sense in some fucked up way. ( something to do with a retarded monkey and a dilldo, wtf is this summona guy talking about)
every major guild loses a member every six months. I can't name one who hasn't.(F video cards breaking/ having no money) Its fine for you to tell your guild that so they still try. Defiance could be the best guild in RoK who knows. SD were pritty good then they got kills in FD, and started pulling out insane kills in EoF and they are in all the top 5 ww lists. But they wouldnt be if 1 ww3rd...on a "controvercial" hard mob. Defiance has way more kills to add yea and yes you guys farm like all of the other guilds. I just dont think that you might be in the top ...x.. * * * * *and if AM hadn't lost 2 hardcore guild leaders no telling where they would have been on the ww scale * * * * *
Re: Who is better
