Level Increase and The NEXT Expansion - Page 2

NephtysSK · 11-12-2007, 11:00 PM

I agree that they should take a break with the whole level increasing thing.
EverQuest is on their 14th expansion, in which they're expanding of all things Faydwer...yes that's right Faydwer. Theyre adding places like Loping Plains to EQ1. And only now in their FOURTEENTH expansion are their levels increasing to 80.

As for reaching a level cap of 250 in five years.....thats completely unfounded. The game just isn't built for that.

I also, vote for Velious

Gaige · 11-12-2007, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Novusod

I don't think SoE is planning for another expansion right now. If RoK flops or if subs drop off shortly after there definitely won't be another expansion. I think they will be waiting until the new year before deciding on what to do.

Are you retarded? They're still making expansions for EQ1. EQ2 has paid for itself multiple times over, they're basically printing money now after server costs are paid for.

Of course they're working on the next expansion already.

EQ1 wasn't designed to be tiered/raise levels. They've had interviews where they talked about structuring EQ2 in a tier system on purpose so that they could raise the level as high as they wanted. Everytime they did it in EQ1 it caused mechanics issues. That's why it took EQ1 so long to get to 80 vs EQ2. WoW is the same way and they raise the level cap everytime, as in WOTLK is already gonna introduce lvl 80 to WoW.

keldo · 11-12-2007, 11:35 PM

I don't see how they could go wrong with Velious and no level raise as they next expansion.

Only thing lacking is maybe a little creativity, at some point people are gonna stop eating up nostalgic rehashes. Wait, who am I kidding, no they won't..

Cracatoa · 11-12-2007, 11:35 PM

Yes, and WOTLK is gonna come up nearly 2 years after the last expansion from WoW. Big friggin difference from how often SOE releases expansions.

the DoF then KoS level increases really fucked the game up.

Gaige · 11-12-2007, 11:46 PM

I don't think it did. Even if the game stays 80 forever people are going to stop doing old expansion's content because it gets fucking boring. Especially with them moving to a year between expansions. Even if the next expansion retains level 80 I seriously doubt most guilds will be farming RoK after its released.

This isn't EQ1.

I have no problem with them increasing the level every expansion as long as they add a lot of raid content like they did with RoK. Old shit is old. In three years even if the cap is still 80 fuck if I'm going to go back and raid RoK. One year of farming content is enough.

In CL we quit doing instances and shit awhile ago. All we were doing was TTR and contested. We didn't even step foot into EH, MMIS or FTH at all, not to mention CWM. Why? Because it was fucking boring and no one needed any loot from those instances.

Would that suddenly change if RoK was lvl 70 instead of 80? Fuck no. With new content out there we especially wouldn't want to go farm EoF boring ass shit.

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Originally Posted by Cracatoa

Yes, and WOTLK is gonna come up nearly 2 years after the last expansion from WoW.

Unless it releases after January 16th, 2009 this statement is false. I imagine it will come out sometime in 2008.

Also WoW doesn't refrain from launching expansions because of fear of raising the cap too fast, its because Blizzard is always slow as fuck to release anything and always have been. Even if they released expansions every six months they'd still be upping the cap.

You said EQ2 going to 60 in DoF and 70 in KoS "fucked up the game" but WoW is doing the same goddamn thing.

Newer games are designed to expand upward instead of outward.

/shrug

Cracatoa · 11-12-2007, 11:49 PM

A year after BC would mean it comes out in about 2 months....and that isn't happening.

Gaige · 11-12-2007, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Cracatoa

A year after BC would mean it comes out in about 2 months....and that isn't happening.

I never said shit about it coming out a year after BC, I simply said every expansion for WoW raises the cap, makes old content obsolete and introduces 5 man gear that is better than 25 man gear.

Same shit EQ2 does.

Cracatoa · 11-13-2007, 12:01 AM

Yeah you did, you just edited it out. Not like it matters.

Drodin · 11-13-2007, 12:26 AM

I think the whole level 250 (I thought it was 200) came from an update they did that made rez sickness apply for levels 7-200. cant think of anything official, but thats what I remember about that

Alania · 11-13-2007, 01:58 AM

I think back in early early eq2 plans, they had planned for expansions up to 200, but then rescaled to make it 100. Of course, at the rate they're going, we'll hit 100 by 2010... what then? Granted, not sure I'll still be playing then, but I'm curious how they're now past the "halfway" point of planned expansion, what's going to happen int he future?

BTW, the other day I went to Best Buy to put in my pre-order. I decided to peruse the PC games. I found a shelf and a half of WOW products, quit a few boxes of FFXI, StarCraft, Guild Wars and even (gag) Vanguard. But not one single box of EQ2, be it the original game, EOF, or ROK pre-orders. The guy I asked said they didn't have ANY pre-orders available, but wouldn't tell me how many boxes were going to be available on launch day. I went home and did the digital preorder after that. *sigh* Was pretty sad to see a game that I honestly enjoy alot not even get a single box on the shelf that shares space with VANGUARD!