All Level 70 Players Should Boycott the EoF Expansion - Page 14

Warforge · 11-08-2006, 11:08 AM

Okay, just going to lay it out straight, my apologies ahead of time if I offend anyone.

1 - WoW is NOT a PvP game, never has been. WoW is a PVE game with PvP added in "for fun". If you don't believe me, go read the WoW forums and more importantly actually *play* the game to 60 (on a couple of characters) before coming here. Blizzard does not balance classes based on PvP, they balance and tweak them based on the class' PVE capabilities.

2 - ALL games will get boring, and it's up to the provider to keep things fun. WoW got boring for a lot of people, some of us (like me) ended up here for EQ2. Hopefully both Blizzard and SOE will adapt and create new end-game content so everyone can continue to enjoy the games we pay for.

3 - For the idiot that said WoW is larger (in-game World wise)... seriously, stop. EQ2 is a LOT LOT bigger, there are also many more quests to do, it's not even close. I've taken 7 characters to level 60 in WoW, this isn't an epeen statement, it's just one to clarify that having a level 55 and 30ish toon mean squat. It takes 5 weeks, tops, to get a character to level 60 in WoW. It can be done in, pretty easily, in half that time. Even if you putz around, it shouldn't take longer than 8 weeks.

4 - WoW is MMOs for Dummies. Everything about WoW is easy, that is it's sex appeal. That is where it makes the 'big money' and has the high subscription numbers. If you're looking for an end-game MMO, WoW is a LOT of fun... for about 4-6 months. And you can be 'end-game' worthy (starting from scratch) in 3 months, I don't know enough about EQ2 yet to say if that is possible here.

And for the guy that said they aren't introducing new classes, you are correct, they are however transitioning 'horde only' and 'alliance only' classes to both sides to create a perfect raiding balance (hence the focus on PVE). The paladin and shaman will be available to both sides because the developers want to improve them both (for PVE), down separate paths and don't want to conflict anymore for end-game raiding.

Koenig · 11-08-2006, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Warforge

3 - For the idiot that said WoW is larger (in-game World wise)... seriously, stop. EQ2 is a LOT LOT bigger

You completely lost me here. I don't have 7 60's but I can tell when one thing is bigger than another thing. Maybe all the zoning makes EQ2 feel bigger to you or something.

Darktizzle · 11-08-2006, 11:19 AM

Personally, LFG.

I would boycot the expansion if I were just a raider.

However, Im not. I play quite actively on the PVP server, not to raid, but just to kill bitches.

I have a locked level 34 with a friend, and the expansion will provide him a cahnce to obtain the other expansions, and both of us much more content to explore.

The rest of you, boycott the bitch.

Rinion · 11-08-2006, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Koenig

You completely lost me here. I don't have 7 60's but I can tell when one thing is bigger than another thing. Maybe all the zoning makes EQ2 feel bigger to you or something.

lol no he is right, WoW is much smaller then the feerrott. "I guess he hasn't been to DoF and KoS yet eh? i mean 2 medium sized outdoor zones and 3 small islands are much bigger then um? the night elf starting city??

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I've taken 7 characters to level 60 in WoW, this isn't an epeen statement, it's just one to clarify that having a level 55 and 30ish toon mean squat. It takes 5 weeks, tops, to get a character to level 60 in WoW. It can be done in, pretty easily, in half that time. Even if you putz around, it shouldn't take longer than 8 weeks.

Seriously did you go look at Eskimo's level history and play time? he is level 37 in less then 2 days, thats over half way to the cap, IN TWO DAYS.
60 in 5 weeks tops on WoW...sounds the same as EQ2! except in eq2 all you have to do is turn in bought collection quests.
they are both extremly easy to level in and like I said before is only a mater of personal prefurence.

But i still think they are both 'Easy Mode' newb games that lack challenge. Thats my opinion and nothing you say or do can change it, just as nothing I have said will change your mind. Humanity is stuborn.

Koenig · 11-08-2006, 12:17 PM

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But i still think they are both 'Easy Mode' newb games that lack challenge. Thats my opinion and nothing you say or do can change it, just as nothing I have said will change your mind. Humanity is stuborn.

All mmo's are easy, some just consume more of your time than others. Wow requires more time and effort to aquire the best shit than eq2 does and that's more appealing to me, not to mention the fact that wow has progression and itemization and eq2 doesn't.

Rinion · 11-08-2006, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Koenig

All mmo's are easy, some just consume more of your time than others. Wow requires more time and effort to aquire the best shit than eq2 does and that's more appealing to me, not to mention the fact that wow has progression and itemization and eq2 doesn't.

heh, I do agree. although stat-wise the pvp armor provides more. the raid armor had more healing bonuses and focused on raid stats, it is very well itemized on the raid end as im sure it is difficult to raid tier 3 without being tier 2 geared first. Which is as it should be.

The major problem with EQ2 Itemization is the bullshit Genralization and making items ALL/ALL and having jack of all trades stats.

It like a game for the politicly correct PITA Activavists Bitchs. oh a Gnome cant be a Druid!? thats discrimatory I'LL SUE!!! Now I dont even mind the gnome Monks its the split classes that really ruined EQ2 with the Realm Vs Realm Betrayl system bull shit.

With the lack of gods all classes could be considered nuteral, or instead of defining them as good side vs Evil side, go back to calling it Qeynos and Freeport combinethe classes, make class specific Gear again besides shitty Relic.

eh w/e im done.

Scafloc · 11-08-2006, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Warforge

3 - For the idiot that said WoW is larger (in-game World wise)... seriously, stop. EQ2 is a LOT LOT bigger, there are also many more quests to do, it's not even close. I've taken 7 characters to level 60 in WoW, this isn't an epeen statement, it's just one to clarify that having a level 55 and 30ish toon mean squat. It takes 5 weeks, tops, to get a character to level 60 in WoW. It can be done in, pretty easily, in half that time. Even if you putz around, it shouldn't take longer than 8 weeks.

World size has nothing to do with levelling speed, and WoW is bigger anyway, even if you include the expansions that are out. And so what if it takes 5 weeks to get to 60 in WoW. Look at this: http://eq2players.station.sony.com/e...erId=345004303. That looks a bit less than 5 weeks.

Pudaan · 11-08-2006, 01:30 PM

I cant believe i read this, this is what i get for staying home sick.

This makes me hate eq2 even more and makes me not even want to play wow.

I wish i could be one of those uber level 20 soloers who bitches on the boards, the game might be fun

Warforge · 11-08-2006, 04:17 PM

I'm horrible at explaining things, and to that, I apologize. My point was, in WoW, you can level very quickly. Therefore you can make it to 'end-game' quickly, and then become burnt out just as fast as you can in EQ2 (or faster). I was just saying that if you're tired in end-game in EQ2, you'll be tired of it in WoW as well, just X months from now. I'll stop yappin' now and level my EQ2 toons so I can see end game on this side. I'm willing to bet though that it will be extremely fun at first, then get a tad bit boring after a few months, just like it was in WoW ....

Koenig · 11-08-2006, 04:25 PM

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I'll stop yappin' now and level my EQ2 toons so I can see end game on this side. I'm willing to bet though that it will be extremely fun at first, then get a tad bit boring after a few months....

When you see that 90% of the fights are the same pull/tank/heal/dps routine, the dungeons are all reused instances of other instances, the itemization sucks, there's no progression and the bosses can change from impossible to retardedly easy on a weekly basis you might have other thoughts.