are RoK raids too easy? - Page 2

Mwink · 11-26-2007, 01:18 PM

Is their a website that list all the WW 1st?

TANGARTH · 11-26-2007, 01:29 PM

Shit's way too easy, people are going to get stuff done too quickly, then have to wait while shit that's not in yet comes out incomplete (epics) and ends up being mediocre (remember claymore?)

Amp up the difficulty. Lots of people quit becuase they bored, not becuase they're challenge.

Gage · 11-26-2007, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TANGARTH

Shit's way too easy, people are going to get stuff done too quickly, then have to wait while shit that's not in yet comes out incomplete (epics) and ends up being mediocre (remember claymore?)

Amp up the difficulty. Lots of people quit becuase they bored, not becuase they're challenge.

Thought you guys didn't start raiding until today? T1 is designed to be easy. Just saying. From Scott's line up on the beta boards the difficulty wasn't supposed to be there until T4, /shrug.

That is so new raiders/non-raiders/non-contested killing guilds can utilize the content as well.

gandulfy · 11-26-2007, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaige

Thought you guys didn't start raiding until today? T1 is designed to be easy. Just saying. From Scott's line up on the beta boards the difficulty wasn't supposed to be there until T4, /shrug.

That is so new raiders/non-raiders/non-contested killing guilds can utilize the content as well.

Are you saying that the final raid zone of the current game (VP) is supposed to be easy?!?

This is no offence made at strike and you guys should be proud that you actually dedicated yourselves to do this, but COMEON! No guild should be walking around VP even the first level at just 2 weeks in this is ridiculous. SOE either needs to add 3 times the raid zones they have now, so that it at least takes around 2 months, or they need to amp the difficulty.

For me thought he problem is going to now be that some guilds have gotten this far and now you make it harder which can seem unfair. But its better to do it now when very few have made it then do it later when 20 guilds have done it.

TANGARTH · 11-26-2007, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaige

Thought you guys didn't start raiding until today? T1 is designed to be easy. Just saying. From Scott's line up on the beta boards the difficulty wasn't supposed to be there until T4, /shrug.

That is so new raiders/non-raiders/non-contested killing guilds can utilize the content as well.

But I've been in VP in beta, and from the sounds of things, some named are still too easy.

I'm sorry that I want the hard raid zones hard, and maybe I am assuming certain things, but does anyone want to go through kos all over again?

Gage · 11-26-2007, 01:52 PM

I never said I don't want the hard raid zones hard. I do. I said the intention of SOE wasn't to make them uber difficult until T4 (Veeshan's Peak and Trak's lair, especially Trak's lair).

The other zones exist so newbie raid guilds or lesser raid guilds can farm to get into T4, where the real raiding takes place. There are more named in VP alone than there is in all of T1 ~ T3 combined.

So T1, and to a lesser extent, T2 and T3; are supposed to be easy.

Seems like most people are either bitching w/o experience or bitching to bitch. EoF instanced content was cleared within 2 months, lets not forget.

If SOE makes it so hard that it takes the hardcore of the hardcore, who are playing 12+ hours a day, two months to make any progress then the majority of guilds out there won't raid at all, and then the ability to justify raid content goes down the toilet.

Leethal · 11-26-2007, 01:53 PM

they made vp a huge zone and didnt put enough t2 and t3 zones.
all they can do now is add more t4/t5 stuff to make up for it.

osibia · 11-26-2007, 09:42 PM

judging from the fast progess of the uber guilds, yes, rok raids are too easy....

but, there are still the avatars... i mean, maybe (hopefully) soe is sitting there studying how guilds kill shit in t8 and learn from it to make the avatars a real challenge for the top guilds....

Shinzul · 11-27-2007, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by osibia

learn from it to make the top guilds bring 8 clerics on raids to kill avatars...

Fixed.

Jaraxx · 11-27-2007, 06:33 PM

There really isn't an easy solution. If you take VP out of raiding the only thing there is left for guilds is the zones up to VP which can be done in 3-4 hours combined and the contested ape. That's amount of content is a fucking joke.

VP is a huge zone, - no one should be in it atm I agree. However there is no simple solution. This expansion is fucked unless they come out with alot of contested or put more mobs and tougher mobs in t2 and t3 in order to make the journey to VP Even harder.

If they did this I would have no problem with them taking away our VP access and I would support it 100%. However thinking for one second that SoE cares enough to do so would be completely and totally foolish.

Hence we're all fucked. Enjoy VP - once it's done you got an ape. Maybe a few avatars and it's done.