hearth

Meh I think Raiding in Rok is a step toward the right direction, at least it is not the mindless clear X trash to get to Y mob with Z Aoe/trick for the whole expansion(cough de-lvl cough). I laughted so hard when half the raid got pulverized by the meat grinder.

Also killing an opposing raid is fun, if only the AI is better and they are not mindless drones.

As for the Ventril mob, I also think it is a step in the right direction, Kind of fun when you realize how many people are just retarded. I just wish that if someone fucked up they get teleported back to freeport instead of wiping the raid.

Going to do t3 tonite, Hopefully there will be more Surprises waiting
But from what I heard so far, it is a walk in the park.

Pinski

New? The Idol from SotL is new?

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Fomka

Tbh I liked the difficulty of zones which we raided so far, I dont see a lot of guilds killing Overking/VS without problems (especially the ones which were clearing only instanced content all their life, and even some contested guilds have problems in there). Howerer there are some things which are pretty annoying, like random high double attacks which raping MT no matter what and statues in VS. But as I said, I like RoK raid zones way more than Kos/EoF ones.

TANGARTH

I kind of like it, it reminds me of drayek/motm/cl/etc

If they hadn't fucked up the gear so badly with stupid placement this could have been an excellent expansion.

Reason number 100 that raidtanks shouldn't be raidleaders :P

I was really waiting for that new thing called progression, and raid flagging on it's own doesn't count

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Gaige

There is progression from T1 to T4, you just don't notice it /shrug. I don't think the progression was intended for ultra hardcore guilds personally. The loot requirements for the first three tiers should have been an indicator of that to everyone.

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hearth

Agreed, solo quest should never give legendary. And instance zone shouldnt be dropping better loots than raid zone. But I think we need to be more objective and blame the fag that did the itemization not the raid designer, unless of course they are the same dude.

Anduri

So reading between the lines here it seems progression isn't totally fubar. Guilds like Strike, Disso are Fable are chewing up the easy content and making it look stupid because thats what they do. I'm expecting when guilds of our standard (casual) get going in a week or so then we are going to struggle.

That's when it will become apparent if it really is too easy (or too hard).

If you get through VP/Trakanon though in a week or two then, yes, it's fucked up.

Dants

No Gaige, I'm just complaining about 1 person's role in the raid which I find to be completely fucking retarded that they have to sit in one spot and right click statues every 20 seconds otherwise 23 people bitch at him because he fell asleep from boredom and missed 1 while the 23 other people enjoy an awesome encounter.

Like I said before, I think the encounter was well done except for the statues and having to click them so many times that it requires someone to maintain fulltime and not fight with their raid is complete bullshit.

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TANGARTH

well, my issue is that the t1-2 zones drop items that are worse than most soloquests and that the first item sets are just about unusable. So other than for flagging you really don't NEED to do the first 5 zones, but that's not what this thread is about.

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stryph

I had to do this last night, and I will agree that it was completely mindless and boring. I managed to fuck it up a couple of times as well. It was a change of pace, thats for sure.

As for not having enough trash in the zones, personally to me I'd rather have a zone with minimal trash and very difficult named mobs. Spending hours on a named is more entertaining to me then a bunch of trash mobs, but thats just my opinon.