A Large-Scale Fundamental Change to EQ2 - Page 41

Caswydian · 01-28-2008, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Talonis

The way you pose the question betrays your opinion, but I'll indulge you only because you obviously haven't read the whole thread. I can't blame you, it got sidetracked early by people with poor reading comprhension. If you are only asking the question in order to play shooting gallery with the ideas, then fuck you very much. The point is that you are for change or not. If not, then thank you for your time, go back to reading threads about broken items & mechanics and missing content.

Large Scale Changes that could be accomplished to this game:

1. Class Consolidation needs to be done. Unfortunately, 7/8ths of this thread was hijacked but dumbfucks arguing how to do this. Most efforts to get them back on track failed. I even started doing it myself. Consolidation in terms of this thread is a yes or no idea, I don't fucking care about another how post.

2. Specialize through AA's. Let players make truly tough decisions on which skills they choose instead of a predetermined destiny and role that currently occurs at the character creation screen. Doesn't really work without consolidation though.

3. Mechanics Overhaul. This centers primarily around tanking and encounters. Avoidance tanking will be great......in EQ3. Give up on it officially for this game once and for all. Tell lazy dev's to stop ignoring the resist sliders on encounter creation to compensate for borked player abilities.

4. Item Centricity. Slathering on more useless stats each tier is still an epic fail. Create items so players need to make a difficult decision on which to use. Stop perpetuating the Aryan role model of each class for item selection. Wanna stop itemization bitching? Don't make them so character-defining, dumbshits.

5. Map Content and Progression (better). I'm sure you do this to some degree, but you are not doing it well or with enough emphasis. RoK finished in 3 weeks is fucking dumb. That is your fault. Grats on finally having a semblance of raid progression. Fuck you for the epic fail by making it stupid easy.

6. Test your own shit. Quit relying on the paying customers to test your 'pushed too early' content. Making sure the shit works is your job, not ours. Man up and start holding up your end of the bargain and fucking finish your jobs. Try doing it on time for once. There are reasons the competition has 10M subscribers and you don't. Hint: This is a big one.

None of those are bad ideas, but if you're going to do something like that, you're far better off making a new game than trying to hack it into an existing game, especially one that's over 3 years old.

I would disagree with you on point 6, however. WoW does not appear to have any higher quality than EQ2. Reading the WoW patch notes, it looks like WoW has pretty much the same issues as EQ2.I really doubt there is any substantial difference between the two games when it comes to objective measures of software quality. This isn't to say the MMO industry couldn't benefit from better QA standards, but that there really isn't this huge gulf in quality between games. Mostly, I think it is people always thinking the grass is greener on the other side, combined with the sort of familiarity with a game that allows players to magnify what is in truth a fairly minor bug or balance issue into a huge, game-breaking issue without seeing the same in other games.

aduros · 01-28-2008, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhau

What are you trying to do? Convert people from the evils of EQ2 into the Glory of WoW?

Isn't it obvious from my post? Make fun SOE and their management of EQ2. But if people would like to taste the Glory of WoW so be it.

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Originally Posted by Rhau

If WoW is so awesome why aren't you trolling their boards? Or playing it?

I do play WoW, just not in the middle of class or work.

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Originally Posted by Rhau

You're nothing, you are just one person who can't let go of a game.

Have fun sucking Tigole and Furors sack in WoW. Honestly, have fun in WoW, if that is what makes you happy then do it. Just stop being an immature little AOL twelve year old and trolling forums for games you don't play. Go to GAMEFAQS so you can join all your trolling friends.

It would seem your the one with the mental stability of a 12 year old, getting vexed because someone made fun of your video game.

EverQuest II - Discussion Boards where people like you don't have to worry about posters like me, and my 'excessive negativity'.

Illuminator · 01-28-2008, 02:27 PM

If we're looking for a single precise incision to rectify most problems, it would be to remove the general-rule epic control immunities. Everything would trickle down from there and give reasons to sweep even class consolidation under the rug.

Rhau · 01-28-2008, 02:57 PM

The problem isn't your negativity, it is your stupidity. You seem to have an unnatural obsession with EQ2.

When I quit WoW, I said "Bye" to some folks, dished out some items I had on the broker and left. I didn't sit around on forums for months after words. I, like a normal, rational adult, realized that I could have more fun else where, so I left.

You on the other hand seem to have a need to validate your change in MMO by constantly posting here. You left, no one missed you. Sorry, but there was not a great funeral procession through Freeport, no grand march and farewell speech. You where and are nothing. No one finds your pathetic and regurgitated attempts are "humor" to be funny. Why do you even need to make fun of EQ2? Isn't the Glory of WoW enough to satisfy all? Why feel the need to stay here, and keep posting?

aduros · 01-28-2008, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhau

The problem isn't your negativity, it is your stupidity. You seem to have an unnatural obsession with EQ2.

When I quit WoW, I said "Bye" to some folks, dished out some items I had on the broker and left. I didn't sit around on forums for months after words. I, like a normal, rational adult, realized that I could have more fun else where, so I left.

You do realize that people use the forums for other things than just EQ2 right? no? Didn't think so. If you honestly think I'm the only person that quit this game and post here your dumber than this prepubescent tantrum leads on. Maybe you should take a look at most of my posts before you jump to conclusion.

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Originally Posted by Rhau

You on the other hand seem to have a need to validate your change in MMO by constantly posting here. You left, no one missed you. Sorry, but there was not a great funeral procession through Freeport, no grand march and farewell speech. You where and are nothing. No one finds your pathetic and regurgitated attempts are "humor" to be funny.

I find it hilarious that my post about SOE was able to get under your skin so much. This just made the 2 minutes spent completely worth it.

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Originally Posted by Rhau

Why do you even need to make fun of EQ2? Isn't the Glory of WoW enough to satisfy all? Why feel the need to stay here, and keep posting?

Why do people make fun of over weight, or mentally challenged individuals? Their misfortunes provide us an opportunity for humor.

This is a flames site Dumbass. Not the official forums 2.0, congratulations on making yourself out to be a pussy with your first few posts.

Rhau · 01-28-2008, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by aduros

You do realize that people use the forums for other things than just EQ2 right? no? Didn't think so. If you honestly think I'm the only person that quit this game and post here your dumber than this prepubescent tantrum leads on. Maybe you should take a look at most of my posts before you jump to conclusion.

I find it hilarious that my post about SOE was able to get under your skin so much. This just made the 2 minutes spent completely worth it.

Why do people make fun of over weight, or mentally challenged individuals? Their misfortunes provide us an opportunity for humor.

This is a flames site Dumbass. Not the official forums 2.0, congratulations on making yourself out to be a pussy with your first few posts.

You "got under my skin" because when I searched your posts I couldn't find a single useful thing you had said or done. Yet you carry your self like the Savior of MMOs, all knowledgeable about their design, pros and cons, and best of all here to deliver us from sin.
Go ahead, keep posting, your pathetic need to defend your self, and your miserable existence is hilarious. Maybe if you where able to form a coherent thought instead of just droning about how much EQ2 sucks, and how everything about it is bad, and how WoW is the savior of man kind you wouldn't feel a need to get into a flame war with pussy with less than 10 posts.

Prove me wrong, walk away and show everyone how you are the big man who doesn't need to defend his thoughts and viewpoints from a miserable little EQ2 playing Pissant like me.

aduros · 01-28-2008, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhau

You "got under my skin" because when I searched your posts I couldn't find a single useful thing you had said or done.

So...crying because I flamed your video game. Your bullshit is also fairly transparent, you wouldn't have to search any further than the beginning of this thread to see how false your statement is.

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Originally Posted by Rhau

Yet you carry your self like the Savior of MMOs, all knowledgeable about their design, pros and cons, and best of all here to deliver us from sin.

Stop being a bitch.

Be glad people voice their opinions on what they believe would improve the game. If no one said anything and listened to morons such as yourself, EQ2 would be on its 9th DoF expansion running on 3 servers. It's the retards that come here in droves trying to censor everyone speaking out, and complaining about 'not being nice' on a fucking flame site that need to go.

Fun fact: the domain used to be named Fucksoe.com, maybe your in the wrong place?

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Originally Posted by Rhau

Go ahead, keep posting, your pathetic need to defend your self, and your miserable existence is hilarious. Maybe if you where able to form a coherent thought instead of just droning about how much EQ2 sucks, and how everything about it is bad, and how WoW is the savior of man kind you wouldn't feel a need to get into a flame war with pussy with less than 10 posts.

Prove me wrong, walk away and show everyone how you are the big man who doesn't need to defend his thoughts and viewpoints from a miserable little EQ2 playing Pissant like me.

You might have better luck using a tactic other than 'If you don't leave, that means I win', who knows.

Hitz · 01-28-2008, 06:50 PM

Rhau prob hasent even hit lvl 30 yet, prob still stuck on those hell twenty lvls lolz

icKx · 01-28-2008, 07:24 PM

I enjoy 99% of your posts Aduros, but what is your point with all the WoW shit?
It seems like you've moved past borrowing gameplay ideas from other mmo's as a way to improve Eq2 - as in some of your other posts - and now you're just gloating and/or trolling.
And while WoW may have Eq2 beat in the all-important (or so you say) area of gameplay it will never have a better community than we do, which is why most people still play the game and probably why you continue to be active on this site.
I hope you enjoy your game, but everyone on this board has heard of WoW and rejected it for one reason or another. Nothing you can post here will change that.
Let Captain Kirk handle the sales pitches.

aduros · 01-28-2008, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by icKx

I enjoy 99% of your posts Aduros, but what is your point with all the WoW shit?
It seems like you've moved past borrowing gameplay ideas from other mmo's as a way to improve Eq2 - as in some of your other posts - and now you're just gloating and/or trolling.
And while WoW may have Eq2 beat in the all-important (or so you say) area of gameplay it will never have a better community than we do, which is why most people still play the game and probably why you continue to be active on this site.
I hope you enjoy your game, but everyone on this board has heard of WoW and rejected it for one reason or another. Nothing you can post here will change that.
Let Captain Kirk handle the sales pitches.

I see your point, I may have gotten a little carried away the past few days with all the fun I'm having over there. It was never my intent to gloat, so I'll save most the WoW pitching for the lower sections.

However, I still reserve the right to bash EQ2 when deemed necessary.