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Old 12-05-2007, 04:23 PM  
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Strike is probably one of the guilds that raid the less because they kill the mobs and clean the zones very fast. I'd bet that once they are in "farm mode", the playtime is not that big of a deal. Just be there when needed and log out the rest of the time and you won't have to play much.
stike's policy among other things included kicking anyone from the guild that didn't make 80 in a week on launch of RoK. Given my playtime, no way i would have made it. Last I checked they specifically wanted more than 40 hours and night availability.
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stike's policy among other things included kicking anyone from the guild that didn't make 80 in a week on launch of RoK. Given my playtime, no way i would have made it. Last I checked they specifically wanted more than 40 hours and night availability.
Well on launch of a new addon you gotta make a few sacrifices if you want your guild on top. =)
Most of them probably took some holidays just for it.
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All you guys who don't feel like you are getting your share of contested should come try Nagafen.

On Nagafen, everything's contested, including the players.
Point made. Theres something to brag about imo, a real live test of skill, and an accomplishment worth bragging about. If your uber on a PvP server, then you might be hot shit.
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Well on launch of a new addon you gotta make a few sacrifices if you want your guild on top. =)
Most of them probably took some holidays just for it.
I'm not holding that against them, never did.

I just hate it when people invest a shitload of time and then pretend like that's not a necessary part to their accomplishment.

Like I said, I don't have a problem with people who have more time than me being able to do more than me. Just don't be telling me that you're doing it all without putting in the time.
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I think that SOE should make contesteds avaiable for testing trough Guild Halls ( i think SOE wanted to add this feature for instances at least). This way lesser guilds willl be able to actually try this content and it won't be missed by them. And such guilds will have better chances to kill contested when it's really up ( because as it's now they have no chance to even test it and try to figure out a strat because dominating guild kill contesteds pretty fast ).
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oh, btw, hey hearth. good post. hope defiance is doing well, and I am sure they are heh

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oh, btw, hey hearth. good post. hope defiance is doing well, and I am sure they are heh

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Not bad, consider we noobed our selve by not realizing that we need both t2 instance to progress to t3.

But I honestly hope they put a contested zone into game. I don't see how the current raid content will sustain any raiding guild for more than 2 months.

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If you remove contested, you remove a lot of the drama that feeds sites like this one.

So with that said, if you remove contested you'd hurt EQ2Flames, and no one wants to hurt this site, do they?
The site is a release valve for drama that needs to happen and for outlining shit that cannot be tolerated any further, but that doesn't mean I enjoy drama or look forward to taking time to describe or argue about broken shit.

I will note that feelings of many about contesteds haven't been truly tested yet because their contesteds haven't truly been contested yet. Not having to get up in the middle of the night for a spawn is only a luxury, and I can see a lot of you don't understand that. All it takes is one good Asian/Australian guild to coldly skullfuck your idealism. If your server doesn't have one today, it just well might tomorrow. And you really can't hide; when they're done taking your post-midnight spawns, they try to take your afternoon ones too.

To say nothing of the stupid fucking inter-guild bitter rivalries that are inevitable if anyone even has a drop of pride. They trickle down to pressure "moral" questions such as, "Should I group with this cool person from the other guild if it means they'll get an uber item and make them more powerful so they can KILL OUR CONTESTEDS?"

If you believe in your heart that contested content is the way to go, then Nagafen will take you closer to that and sort you out and brand you as Legit or as a Fucking Poseur. Otherwise you're sitting here arguing with PvE players about bizarre shades of gray and demanding the unique right to plow through content everyone else has to struggle through, with stoneskin boots and max recast speed and ae avoid procs.

And as for leaving the game for one where the conditions are to our liking? Well who wouldn't? But what is the title of that game, and do I lose more by going there than staying here, struggling for the optimal distraction a few hours each evening?
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I think that SOE should make contesteds avaiable for testing trough Guild Halls ( i think SOE wanted to add this feature for instances at least). This way lesser guilds willl be able to actually try this content and it won't be missed by them. And such guilds will have better chances to kill contested when it's really up ( because as it's now they have no chance to even test it and try to figure out a strat because dominating guild kill contesteds pretty fast ).
that's a good idea too. make these drop no loot, but at least those that just want a challenge (or to learn the encounter), are welcome to go at it. It doesn't change the luck factor of killing the real version, but at least it narrows the amount of time investment required and let's it be scheduled.
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Old 12-05-2007, 04:53 PM  
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I think the contesteds are good for the game, it gives the HC raid guilds something to do, a standard borderline (by borderline i mean on the verge of killing contesteds) raid guilds to aspire to, and all around competition. The only drawback is the attitude and demeanor of certain members of these HC contested killer guilds are complete assholes wether by birth or by design. I respect guilds like strike that they are dedicated focused and capable of killing these contesteds. I despise them for thier attitude and self pontification of some of thier members (see post dear dear lucan d'lere from "the GLOW) because truthfully the contested gear is nice, but not needed to progress through the games content. it helps but so does the instanced fabled gear trump legendary trumps treasured. so let those 1% of the 1 % have thier contested and fun in thier own way, grats on ww firsts and such, just dont rub the rest of the servers nose in it.
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