Alesis

Obsidian:

3 hours a day x 1 week = 21 hours a week just to learn 1 mobs strat?

lets say 3 hours a day for 5 days which is only a 15 hour a week investment. Now lets pretend that since you used the word "weeks" were only talking about 2 weeks, even though it was clearly stated when the mob popped it was up for a month. that = 30 hours to learn 1 mobs strat.
multiply that by 24 raiders = 720 man hours invested.

and in that time, you cats didnt log in and work on anything else? farm a zone? level something? complete a quest? tradeskill?

Now what if I belong to a guild of casual dudes, who can only raid 3 nights a week? (me personally, i can barely pull off 2). We can kill Woushi and farm him, we can kill TNT Mayong and farm him, however we just dont have the time to put in an extra 15-21 hours a week just to practice that contested mob (which in my experience, wont live past the 5 hour mark tops, cause when a contested pops on my server, Revelations dont fuck around, you can expect that bad boy to be taking a dirt nap inside an hour seems like lol, and props to em for it. They got that shit wired tight.)

And we suck why? O yeah, cause we cant put in 21 extra hours a week to practice said mob, and you can. We are penalized because we cant "commit", our time constraints wont allow us to "focus", and our outside lives require us to "slack," unlike you, who is able to prioritze thier time around the video game more efficently than the average dude, due to your amazing gaming skills.

An instance solves this. Everyone gets to experience said content, and you get to wack off all over your keyboard when you kill it first. /golf clap.

THANK GOD, SOE doesnt feel the same about this topic that you do Obsidian. I have this vision of the future see, and that is when the expansions content is cleared, and Veeshans Peak is on farm status not only for the HC raiders, but us casuals too, that theres gonna be all these uber dudes standing around with nothing to do, except farm thier Avatars, and youve been doing that for a year already. No more /level chat broadcasts of "Avatar of X down!", cause big fucking whoopty fuckin do! you killed it already months ago.

What will you have then, to make you the supreme dominators of your server?

What will you have then to tell everyone why you rise head and shoulders above everyone else? Will you still be head and shoulders above everyone else?

Only time will tell. Enjoy your Avatar raids though, I suggest you ration them out, that contents gonna need to last you about a year till the next expansion pops, and maybe if your lucky SOE will give you a few more.

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Trumak

Well said.

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Khalan

You fail to realize that once one guild has killed it, any subsequent guilds will have an infintitely easier time doing so, you can basically watch the guild kill the contested and copy their strat exactly. You don't have to come up with your own at all. You can even park someone close enough to pick up an entire log of the fight including all AE timers and everything.

Thats easily the 21 hours of work your talking about. All done for you.

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Caswydian

Of course, looking at logs and videos of a fight is hardly the same as having actually gone through the fight yourself, so the guild that has successfully beaten a contested will have an even easier time of it the next time, thus making it harder for any other guilds to take a shot at it.

I am curious, what percent of total contested mob kills go to the guild that got the first kill? This would be an interesting statistic, and I am sure SOE knows.

Khalan

That wasnt my argument at all though, merely that once a guild has killed it subsequent guilds attempting it dont have to put nearly the same amount of time into it. And honestly if your players dont completely suck, you should be able to follow a video of a fight without too much hassle.

Obsidian

lol at the bit were you times 30 hours by 24 raiders to make it seem like a larger amount of time it would still only be 30 hours even if that number is just pure speculation just another invalid point with no relevance

and as khalan corectly stated once the strat is there to be seen u dont have to invest half the time the original guild did to kill it without even using parsers and just watching its pretty fucking obvious to see whats going on (apart from mischief :D )

and lol at your comments about me whacking off over my keyboard about a kill typical comment of a stereotyping hater the reason killing contested is fun is not to lord it over people who dont try them its the fact that we all worked as a well coordinated team under pressure

face it your just a whinner who wants it easy mode

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Prof

Fixed.
And that would be a boring statistic without the inclusion of the number of pulls on the mob every guild that attempted it had. The numbers will be inflated without that consideration as the

Your vision will never come true. Was Wuoshi on farm status the year after EoF was released for casual guilds? Nope. What about Avatars, C.Mayong, PHH? Nope. The end game EoF content was still too hard for casual guilds a year later, and RoK raid mobs are worlds harder than EoF. Overking alone is of T7 Avatar difficulty, and if you couldn't handle AoF in EoF you won't even see T3 for a long long time in RoK.

Guilds always catch up in time. It happened before and will happen again. Noone loses sleep when another guild out performs yours and steals a contested. You work harder to take it back on the next spawn.

There is more to it than being the supreme dominators of a server as you put it, and it's all been covered previously in this thread. As for rationing avatar spawns... how many guilds can say they killed the avatars so many times that every guild member had every drop that they wanted from each of them before RoK hit? I'd guess not a single one. Random loot can be a bitch, and you gotta start early and often to make sure you don't miss out.

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Pudaan

God casual people who love to solo make my stomach actually sick

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Edwin Ahe

It`s your choise not to leave Wuoshi and try contested.

Tholar

THANK GOD that you are on another server you stupid dumbfucked twat...

you are seriously a dumb motherfucker who just doesnt realize that you have to work harder (and more) if you want to achieve things. if you cant commit your time to it, then just dont bother about it... and seriously if i would only raid 2 nights per week i wouldnt even think about contesteds, i would rather get the other instances on farm status and get some decent loot there instead of wasting my time with 23 other idiots like you to actually try contesteds where coordination, focus and teamplay clearly are an advantage.

well enough time wasted on you.