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Old 12-10-2007, 06:54 AM  
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Default Re: Should contested Epics even be bothered with?

You completely missed my point. It doesn't matter how uber you or your friends are, or how much you suck. If a mob is dead, you can't kill it.

Therefore, contested mobs are NOT available to anyone, because once it's dead, it's dead. It wont respawn in 15 mintues for you to try again, you have to wait days to get a shot at it.
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Old 12-10-2007, 07:45 AM  
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Default Re: Should contested Epics even be bothered with?

Think about that for a minute, contested mobs are epic, they're the most epic things in the game. And you want them to spawn every 15 minutes....

Why shouldn't a contested spawn only a few times a month, this isn't your birthday and contested aren't cake.
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Old 12-10-2007, 07:56 AM  
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I never said i wanted them to spawn every 15 minutes, don't put words into my mouth. I said until they do (note: I don't want them too) you cannot say that everyone has equal access to them. As soon as someone kills them, that content is bared to everyone else until they spawn again.

The current system is fine, it's your arguements which are flawed.
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Old 12-10-2007, 08:03 AM  
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I never said i wanted them to spawn every 15 minutes, don't put words into my mouth. I said until they do (note: I don't want them too) you cannot say that everyone has equal access to them. As soon as someone kills them, that content is bared to everyone else until they spawn again.

The current system is fine, it's your arguements which are flawed.
You tried to read this whole thread ? By reading your posts I can conclude that you didn`t.
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Old 12-10-2007, 10:29 AM  
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I definitely didn't read this entire thread. But... Spawn times are randomized, you have a clue when they when spawn, as in within a few days or something, but the exact moment that a contested will spawn is not set in stone, it is random. Saying that any person has a better chance of getting to the mob first is like saying you have a better chance at winning the lottery than me.
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Old 12-10-2007, 12:12 PM  
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This thread wasnt even about being first, it was about being able to at all.
You cant kill a dead mob, period.

When a guild world firsts Mayong in TNT, they get thier credit, and yet non uber guilds can still come try a crack at it, and even if it takes longer for them to figure it out, because theyre not the "elite players, with superior gaming skills", they can still figure it out eventually, and then get to experience that content.

Contesteds arent like that. The first guy to figure it out gets to bar everyone else from a crack at it, but still tells everyone its "thier fault for not being as uber as we are." The cake analogy up above fits perfectly imo. How can you give 1 cake to 500 people, then tell the 492 people who starved to death "pussy, you should have fought for the cake harder, your starving is your own damn fault, try harder next time!" This kind of logic in game is flawed, and SOE has apparently realized this, because guess what? THEY DIDNT WASTE ANY MORE TIME MAKING YOU ANY NEW CONTESTED CONTENT!

The longer a contested mob is dominated by a single guild or two, the less of a chance anyone else ever has of experienceing that content, plain and simple.

I can see the point of the hardcore raiders, If I had some awesome shit on farm status Id be hesitant to change the system so that anyone else could get a crack at it too I guess. After all, if everyone could pull that mob during raid hours at thier conveneiance for say, 3 weeks until they got it right,(like in an instance ((omg blatant refernce to the OPs topic when he started this thread, and the point of all this arguing)) well then that would sure knock them off the top of the food chain, and they would cease to be the super elite.

The egos up top cant have that imo, thats why you dont see any logical responses to the debate on the topic, but alot of "yeah well fuck you poser you suck and your guild sucks! na na! Your just sore cause we are the dominat0rs!"

Well guess what dominat0rs, argue all you want FOR your side of the topic, cause no matter how you look at it, you lost the war. No matter how many times you argue for why you should own this content exclusivly, let me try to beat a point into your skull once again for you: SOE isnt making any more contested content to cater to .001% of the games population, and stated so when they released this expansion. You lose.

The uber elite of gaming have gone the way of the dinosaur, and soon will just be a bunch of dudes who can get thier first, but not lock us out.

Enjoy your 8ish Avatars Ubersaurus Rex.
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Old 12-10-2007, 12:23 PM  
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I like the idea that Vanguard has. If you kill an epic mob, it becomes a non aggro NPC to you and you cant kill it again for a set amount of days. To everyone else the mob remains aggro until they kill it. This allows the ubers their we killed it first and all others to have a shot at the mobs. Once a top guild gets a mob in EQ2 on farm status its damn near impossible to get a crack at it.
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Old 12-10-2007, 12:33 PM  
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It's not a f'ing contested mob if everyone can get a shot at him all the time.
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Old 12-10-2007, 12:35 PM  
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This thread wasnt even about being first, it was about being able to at all.
You cant kill a dead mob, period.

When a guild world firsts Mayong in TNT, they get thier credit, and yet non uber guilds can still come try a crack at it, and even if it takes longer for them to figure it out, because theyre not the "elite players, with superior gaming skills", they can still figure it out eventually, and then get to experience that content.

Contesteds arent like that. The first guy to figure it out gets to bar everyone else from a crack at it, but still tells everyone its "thier fault for not being as uber as we are." The cake analogy up above fits perfectly imo. How can you give 1 cake to 500 people, then tell the 492 people who starved to death "pussy, you should have fought for the cake harder, your starving is your own damn fault, try harder next time!" This kind of logic in game is flawed, and SOE has apparently realized this, because guess what? THEY DIDNT WASTE ANY MORE TIME MAKING YOU ANY NEW CONTESTED CONTENT!

The longer a contested mob is dominated by a single guild or two, the less of a chance anyone else ever has of experienceing that content, plain and simple.

I can see the point of the hardcore raiders, If I had some awesome shit on farm status Id be hesitant to change the system so that anyone else could get a crack at it too I guess. After all, if everyone could pull that mob during raid hours at thier conveneiance for say, 3 weeks until they got it right,(like in an instance ((omg blatant refernce to the OPs topic when he started this thread, and the point of all this arguing)) well then that would sure knock them off the top of the food chain, and they would cease to be the super elite.

The egos up top cant have that imo, thats why you dont see any logical responses to the debate on the topic, but alot of "yeah well fuck you poser you suck and your guild sucks! na na! Your just sore cause we are the dominat0rs!"

Well guess what dominat0rs, argue all you want FOR your side of the topic, cause no matter how you look at it, you lost the war. No matter how many times you argue for why you should own this content exclusivly, let me try to beat a point into your skull once again for you: SOE isnt making any more contested content to cater to .001% of the games population, and stated so when they released this expansion. You lose.

The uber elite of gaming have gone the way of the dinosaur, and soon will just be a bunch of dudes who can get thier first, but not lock us out.

Enjoy your 8ish Avatars Ubersaurus Rex.
You are retarded beyond imagination. Either you don`t read any posts at all, or you just can`t understand them.

For very last fucking time: Nobody knows when contested spawns, in any given period of time there is a chance of spawn, and after spawn everybody has equal chances to try it. If you farm instance in that time and don`t want to leave it`s your fucking choise to do so.

Now tell me what part of this simple text you don`t understand?
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Old 12-10-2007, 12:42 PM  
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I like the idea that Vanguard has. If you kill an epic mob, it becomes a non aggro NPC to you and you cant kill it again for a set amount of days. To everyone else the mob remains aggro until they kill it. This allows the ubers their we killed it first and all others to have a shot at the mobs. Once a top guild gets a mob in EQ2 on farm status its damn near impossible to get a crack at it.
Kind of ruins the "hardcore" ideals Vanguard originally had set up as their goal. No thanks, don't like that idea.
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