Should contested Epics even be bothered with? - Page 39

Edwin Ahe · 12-10-2007, 02:46 PM

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If you think that when Avatar X spawns a time X = everyone gets a fair shot, your fucking delusional son. How many pulls does it take for a good raid guild to refine the strat no an Avatar? I know, I know, youll say something like 3 tops, but for those of us mere mortals, its alot more than that. Avatars dont live that long.

Guild X gets how many pulls before Hardcore guild "The Dominat0rs" shows up and kills it? You can sit here all day and claim we all got a fair chance at it, and Ill tell you to your face your a delusional fucking liar.
You can pretend all you want, it doesnt make it reality.

Siting there and doing nothing won`t give you any chance.

I`ll tell you why you don`t even try to kill contested: because you think that you have no chance, and that`s looser philosophy, continue that way and you will never ever see any contested, even when there are hundreds and thousands of them avaible.

Alesis · 12-10-2007, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Edwin Ahe

Siting there and doing nothing won`t give you any chance.

I`ll tell you why you don`t even try to kill contested: because you think that you have no chance, and that`s looser philosophy, continue that way and you will never ever see any contested, even when there are hundreds and thousands of them avaible.

Read the whole thread before you talk, otherwise, you suond like your piping in and dont know wtf your talking about.
We did pull Avatars, 6 months after another guild had em on farm status, and after 2 or 3 attempts, they came in and swooped the mob away, one shotting it down, on each mob, repeatedly.

Alesis · 12-10-2007, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Crychtonn - Bylar

EoF contested:

Tangrin
12 Avatars

Trakasuerous x2
Dragon who's name I can't spell x2

Total encounters possible - 13 x4's and 2 x2's

Sure the avatars can only spawn one at a time. But as far as the total number of fights available there are more in RoK then in EoF. And while the 8 carry over avatars have the same appearance all the fights have been changed. Making them all brand new enounters. So explain again how SOE is eliminating contested with this expansion again.

An increase in the number of encounters created = a sure sign they are moving away and eliminating those types of encounters /boggle

1) You included the x2 to beef your numbers- fucking weak.
13 -2 = 11
2) There are 8 encounters that where recycled for the expansion.
13-8=5

Thats right, 4 new Avatars, and 1 giant monkey.

5 new encounters is a lot less than 10 new encounters, at least by my math. i didnt realzie we where considering x2 and recycled encounters into the mix, I stand corrected I guess.

Uyaem · 12-10-2007, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Alesis

Im sorry i didnt use the exact same terminology to describe the super minority that is the top 1 or 2 guilds per server. Your ability to bypass the point of the post, and instead take a trivial detail and try to make it the point, is noted.

Hey, at least I read your posting, you didn't read half the thread.
I'm giving you too much credit already, every time after giving you a proper argument you press your own reset button and start over. Seriously do you read what you post? First paragraph is always a response that vaguely touches the topic, and the rest is a copy/paste job of half assed insults and hearsay.
Reality has proven you wrong, see Crychtonn's posting. No, what he mentions is not an exception. If reality can't show you that you're wrong, neither can I. Believe what you want.

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at least by my math.

And from the posting before we've seen how good that is

Tholar · 12-10-2007, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Alesis

Read the whole thread before you talk, otherwise, you suond like your piping in and dont know wtf your talking about.
We did pull Avatars, 6 months after another guild had em on farm status, and after 2 or 3 attempts, they came in and swooped the mob away, one shotting it down, on each mob, repeatedly.

one-shotting, means they had a secret weapon which hits an avatar for 6million hp? maybe you should try and reread the thread, you might find the right word.

Pinski · 12-10-2007, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Alesis

1) You included the x2 to beef your numbers- fucking weak.
13 -2 = 11
2) There are 8 encounters that where recycled for the expansion.
13-8=5

Thats right, 4 new Avatars, and 1 giant monkey.

5 new encounters is a lot less than 10 new encounters, at least by my math. i didnt realzie we where considering x2 and recycled encounters into the mix, I stand corrected I guess.

I just want to say if those 8 encounters that are recycled, I will say you will have more than enough time to kill those mobs if you transfer to Nektulos. If they aren't recycled, then GL on not even being able to kill them because of the fact all you're doing is whining rather than trying.

Edwin Ahe · 12-10-2007, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Alesis

Read the whole thread before you talk, otherwise, you suond like your piping in and dont know wtf your talking about.
We did pull Avatars, 6 months after another guild had em on farm status, and after 2 or 3 attempts, they came in and swooped the mob away, one shotting it down, on each mob, repeatedly.

So in the end you told yourself "bah we are noobs, and have no chance, let`s get to our favorite instance mob X". makes no fucking difference. You want to kill a contested? try harder. You want to kill a contested, but your guild sucks? join another guild, or convince your guild.

Gunthore · 12-10-2007, 03:31 PM

Yeah honestly, I don't want to give you the warm feeling you get inside from being a failure and tell you "Hey Alesis, you fucking suck and that's why you'll never kill a contested mob." So I won't say that.

I don't know what to say to you. Do you want contested mobs gone, is that what you want? Why? Because you can't kill them?

This is a literal question to you Alesis, because while you may not suck at the game, I don't know, you clearly seem to be a fucking moron.

You cannot afford a Ferrari so why aren't you demanding production stop on them immediately and forever.

My point is there are a lot of things in life you cannot do, and that is no one's fault but your own. Just like it's my fault I'm not a pro athlete. Guess what I like to play sports, in fact I like to sports a lot. But I do not put in the dedication that pro athletes do and have to get where they are. And you know what Alesis, I don't complain about it. Why do you?

Angelys · 12-10-2007, 04:22 PM

What people like Alesis want is MMOs to turn into a different kind of game. And they don't realize it. They are playing a game where they are not supposed to experience everything, and they expect to get everything they want. Even the most hardcore raiders haven't seen everything in the game, and never will, even though some are getting close.

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Originally Posted by Paikis

You completely missed my point. It doesn't matter how uber you or your friends are, or how much you suck. If a mob is dead, you can't kill it.

Therefore, contested mobs are NOT available to anyone, because once it's dead, it's dead. It wont respawn in 15 mintues for you to try again, you have to wait days to get a shot at it.

If a mob is dead, it's dead for everyone. When it was up, it was up for everyone. Next time it will be up, it will be up for everyone. So where's the problem? Of course once a contested mob is dead, it's no longer available, but it was before it died, and it was to EVERYONE. Just work harder next time if you lost it this time, no biggie really =)

Oh and the cake analogy was hilarious, although the instanced cakes were somehow forgotten! And it only proved one point: there's not enough cakes, GIVE YOUR RAIDERS MORE CAKES SOE DAMMIT!!!!

Syous · 12-10-2007, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Malevolence

They should have just made everything contested. Instances are fucking gay.

90% contested, 10% instance. All contested on RANDOM spawn timers.