Dredd

More cowbell please.

Solostaran

Ok only read like 15 pages of this, but here is my 2cp.

1. Mobs are not wholly scripted. Their AoE's and such are. If they were totally scripted you would be telling your peeps "Ok in 5 secs he will hit you for 3k slashing dmg and my ward will take 2.5k dmg." It's an RPG to that tard who doesn't know this. Spells don't always hit and weapons don't always do dmg. That adds a challenge.

2. I haven't killed a contested yet, but am not goona complain Why? Because my guild isn't good enough to do so. We are trying to get gear and such so that mabye one day we can. You have to work your way up to get to the top. You can't just start as a CEO of a big company. You have to have to sart as a peon.

3. Mabye instead of complaining on these forums go play the fucking game and get better at it so you can do the hard shit. Or play single player games where the whole game is an instance so you can kill whatever the hell you want when you want.

In short STFU you whiny little dickwads that want to get stuff handed to you just like your welfare check.

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Gaige

Exactly. SOE needs to add more contested content to the game, not less.

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Gunthore

Point, Match, and Game.

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Alesis

And thats the 3rd guilds fault, because they didnt pay enough dues apparently. A reasonable chance isnt really possible though, if like on my server, you have say, 3-4 guilds (I dont know really, but we have some good crews on Unrest who I think have a shot) capable of killing the thing, and your in one of say 5 younger hungrier guild with casual play requirements that would love a chance to kill the thing, or at least try it, but when you show up to pull it, you find 3 guilds there with kill experience racing to pull it out from the noses of each other so they can fuck the guild next to them. Its just a retarded system.

What happens is the guild with the most practice gets to lock down the mob MOST of the time, and the 2nd place dudes get the scraps. If a 3rd place guild is lucky enough, they MIGHT get a shot at pulling the thing a few times in 6 months, and if theyre lucky they can kill it before one of the bigger fish comes and ganks thier attempt to learn the thing.

That leaves 3, maybe 4 guilds on my server with no hope of ever seeing that content, ever. O yeah, sorry, I forgot, thats thier fault. They shoulda tried harder. Why werent you there from the begining? Why werent you there first to practice until we came and took it away?
Gimps!

An Instance solves this, plain and simple, to bring this back to the original topic.

I guess id be arguing for keeping it the way it is, if I had everyone else locked out of the fight too. The "haves" and the "have nots" syndrome I guess.

You dont see George W. Bush giving a fuck about the have nots, because hes a have. Those of us who could, but dont have the chance, want to do what those of us who could, and had the chance to refine the technique, can do. We are whiny posers, and need to manage our time in game more efficently, I understand that now.

/shrug

Ironicly, I get like 2-3 tells a day from all sorts of different people on my server who are like "I saw what you said on eq2 flames, and your right really, but arguing with the "haves" is pointless." And you know what? Theyre right! The sense of entitlement that the top of the food chain carries with it will never, ever let those cats understand that some of us would like a chance to check out that content too, even if our level of "in game dedication" wont let us. I remember in EQ1 when you came up on say, The Avatar of War, and it was camped and being pulled, your scouts hit the ground running looking for the next one, and you let the guy who got thier first do his thing, maybe leaving an alt there to make sure they got it killed before giving up. Not so in this game. This game, you fuck each other over, with no respect, spit on the corpse of the mob you just pulled out from the other guy, and tell him "better luck next time bitch".

You have opened my eyes. Im gonna get off my ass, stop paying attention to so many of these "real world" responsabilities, and get my priorities in order. Ill hire someone to come and teach me better time management skills, tell the management team at work I cant be bothered with any more late nights, get my wife to stop nagging about all the household chores, and just focus on what I need to so that I can experience this content. EQ2 and RoK.

I gotta figure out how it is I dont have all this uberness on lockdown in 3 hours played a week. I must need an EQ2 tutor or something.

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Gunthore

Alesis you fucking asshat. I'm not even going to waste my time reading your bs anymore. I addressed you personally a few pages back. I'm sure many others have directly addressed you. You refuse to listen to the logic in those that don't agree with you.

You constantly spit out some of the dumbest shit I have ever seen in my life. You blatantly ignore direct questions and opposing logic to your reasoning. I've never met a more blind, ignorant peice of shit than you in my life.

Now, have a good day.

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Illuminator

It isn't pointless at all because the goal of the arguments isn't to change the minds of the "haves" but to educate the other 2000 users that are online right now reading what you write (much like an election debate). Grassroots efforts take constant education but with time they do pay off.

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Manratten

Gunthore:
Normally, I would take your quote of:

with a grain of salt. However, for humour value, I am going to assume you to be telling the truth. (A novel concept, to be sure) Dang, what a sheltered life. I meet people on a daily basis who I think are far less intelligent, and have far weaker argumental skills, than Alesis. Heck, I've seen quite a few on this board. However, if you are indeed right, it means you have been in a spirited discussion, lasting for days, with someone you think is the epitome of ignorance. Well, ok then.

However, Alesis, I got a tip for you. Just mimic Gunthore, and you'll sound more intelligent!! Just say, "Gunthore, you fucking asshat". That is clearly deep reasoning logic, and all will fall under your sway!!

Edwin Ahe

QFT

PS Alesis go and play a fucking WoW or LotRO. every damn mob there is instanced, so you won`t have to whine on forums.

Alesis

Why is that? because the logic of the opposing side is "We limit you from content because we can? We bar you from content because your weak? We limit you from content because if we have more playtime than you, we deserve it? Becaause half the fun of the content is competing for and taking it away from someone else?" The logic is flawed, and seems like schoolyard bullying imo. Why is it fun to take away something from someone else? Because you cant do that in real life? I would understand that honestly. Your idea is that I blatently ignore this logic, which to me, seems downright illogical.

This is a FUCKING VIDEO GAME. Your ability to kill shit before someone else can doesnt give you the right to effectivly cockblock 1000s of other players from what you guys yourselves call "the best content in the game".

If you dont like the fact that no matter what point you argue, an instance solves this, then sorry, fuck off. I didnt say you guys werent at the top of the foodchain, I just said some of us would like to try that content out too, and HOLY FUCKING SHIT did the shit storm hit the fan. "Fuck you n00b, its ours! You want it, come and get it, and good luck bitch, cause we just LOVE to fuck over everyone who tries!" is what I hear. "Its a competition!" to which i reply "Competition is PvP" and all the sudden im a hater. You pussies dont wanna compete over shit, you wanna bully your way to the top.

To the uber end game, you get to have your mobs, and it doesnt matter, but to the top end of the middle of the food chain, an instance lets us see that content too, and thats as simple as it gets.

Sit around and tell yourselves your entitled to domination all you want, my point all along is instancing this shit opens it up for everyone to experience. But that just makes your nuts creep up into your belly, because without the ability to take that content away from other people, you become just another player, nothing special, nothing uber.

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Gunthor,

Quit reading my posts mother fucker, I dont care. I dont know you, and until my account gets banned on these forums, Ill continue to state that the idea of contested mobs is fucking stupid imo, and breeds an elitest, dipshit attitude by the top 24 fuckwads on a server, who imo, are only elite cause they got to practice that content first.

You dont like what I got to say, check out the quote at the bottom of my sig, bitch. You think I put it there because I thuoght it was funny? or because I meant it?

If the sig is to confusing for you, let me clear it up for you a bit.

Fuck YOU, personally Gunthor, in your mothers mouth, with an infected 3rd world cock. I hope you die of ghonorea you arrogant elitest wind bag. I hope your children are hit by a drunk driver who was getting a blow job from your father. I sincerely wish you would die to an intestinal hemorage brought upon you by being sodomized by a well hung mule, who was infected with syphilis, you fucking dick smoking, child raping douche bag.

And guess what? I dont think youll care what I just said, any more than I give a flying rat fuck about your whiny "we deserve it!" mantra you keep mumbling over and over.

Next time you wanna insult me, I expect more effort sweetheart.

And you know what else? I bet you read this, and reply too.

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