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12-14-2007, 04:20 PM
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Re: Should contested Epics even be bothered with?
You obviously didn't look very hard, nor read anything very well, pg 51, two pages behind the call for you to go back after you slunk back and were trying to ignore it.
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Originally Posted by pagansaint
I didn't selectively edit anything.
As you have been informed numerous times by numerous people.
I quoted the pertinent information. If you do not understand the difference you are too stupid to be accepted to the guilds you were turned down for, disregarding the lack of will to do anything required of someone in those guilds.
If you say 24/7/365 then go on to say everywhere else that you do not have the playtime, then what exactly is that? Which one is the truth and which the lie?
You can't answer without proving every point made.
Man up and admit it, or slink away like a little bitch.
I'm betting on another round of quote and cry evasions.
You're a nothing in game so you cry for people who do things you aren't willing to put forth the effort for to have content removed from them.
Wait.
Thats not right.
You only started these temper tantrums after being turned down by those people.
You can have a deluge of evasive bullshit in every post, but you cannot deny that.
Try again to avoid the issue.
It may actually distract someone this time.
Your bullshit parade has been rained on, you're too stupid to even have a semi decent retort and use some pathetic reference to cleaning a toilet for you.
How weak.
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Saying I selectively edited something is saying I changed what it was, I combined what it was with something else to make it read differently.
That did not happen.
I quoted a single sentence in its entirety.
Just so you can't cry about how quoting pertinent information is actually selective editing.
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So man up bitch.
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Originally Posted by Talonis
Instead of arguing with your doctorate in Wikipedia, I'll offer a little insight.
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12-14-2007, 04:35 PM
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Re: Should contested Epics even be bothered with?
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Actually, Heres the thread, minus the pictures:
Hi Im Alesis.
I have been playing EQ2 since its release, off and on, and I am looking for a guild. I have sort of a unique situation, and a rather unique offer for the right guild, if your interested:
I have been playing EQ since EQ1 was released, and up and thru EQ2 as well. However, EQ is not my first love. My first love is making music and videos. I have been making music for about 15 years, and a few years back, got into making videos too.
I own a complete digital audio/video editing studio, and have developed quite the obsession with making EQ movies. I spend alot of time doing this, and really enjoy it.
I am currently looking to find a guild on any server capable of killing seriously end game stuff,like Avatars etc, so that I can film it, and make movies about your uber exploits. I understand these videos must be edited sometimes so as not to give up mob strats etc, and Im willing to pass projects past an officer or guild leader etc for approval before publishing them.
I want to make something clear: I will not be your most uber dirge. I will not top your Dirge parse probably, nor will I be the best geared Dirge in your guild, even though I am mostly fabled out currently. Honestly, I could give a shit less about loots, I just want to make movies, maybe score a few quest updates when I can. I will be perfectly content to bottom feed off of the scrap loots that noone wants etc, because thats not what motivates me. I like to film, period. I wont attend every raid, and I wont take up raid spots more than neccesary. Im the cameraman, and you only need me in there long enough to get the film, kill shot etc, and then Im out. On contested mobs, it wont even be neccesary to have me in the raid, I can do all my work outside of it. Not to say that I cant get in there and debuff my ass off, or spam COB till I die, and still film, or that I cant pay attention and focus when needed, Im just trying to say that I prefer a sort of 3rd string position. After all, who doesnt need a back up Dirge? I am available and on call for EQ2 24/7/365. You can always call me on my cell for an immediate log in. I carry an Alienware laptop around at all times ready to go, cause Im a geek like that. 
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Selective editing FTW PSaint.
Let me clarify for you what you obviously didnt understand since big paragraphs seem to be hard for you to comprehend.
I want to make something clear
I could give a shit less about loots, I just want to make movies, maybe score a few quest updates when I can.
I wont attend every raid, and I wont take up raid spots more than neccesary. Im the cameraman, and you only need me in there long enough to get the film, kill shot etc, and then Im out.
Im just trying to say that I prefer a sort of 3rd string position.
I am available and on call for EQ2 24/7/365. You can always call me on my cell for an immediate log in. I carry an Alienware laptop around at all times ready to go, cause Im a geek like that.
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I think I was quite clear in stating that I dont have the playtimes required, and that I was offering my services as a cameraman more than as a raid dirge. I think I was also quite clear in the fact that I wasnt interested in loots, but if some scraps fell off the table Id take it, after all, who wouldnt? If I invest 35 hours into making an EQ2 movie, is it worth table scraps?
The 15 or so guilds who sent me tells considering my offer seemed to understand, whats your problem?
See, Ive been at the top of the server game, and been in the guild who dominated shit, got world firsts and ganked contested epics from everyone else, (Tier 6, begining of Tier 7) and I still thought then, as I do now, that if that shit was instanced, everyone would have a fair shot, not he who was available to raid at 3am, 10am, and 4pm. Ive been on an on call available list, and Ive logged in at midnight when I got a phone call from my guild leader.
Now that Im on the other side of that fence, it still seems clear to me.
Instance = problem solved.
Pat yourself on the back all you want, I could selectively edit a bunch of your posts to say anything I want too. Your no great debater, youve not put the smack down, you just took selective parts of a post and twisted it to make it look like it said something it did not.
Perfect example of how you can sit around and delude yourself your smarter than everyone else, when in reality, your a cheap fucking gimp trying to use parlor tricks to prove your a god.
You wanna end my bullshit parade? Clean my fucking toilet faggot, cause your debate skills are lacking.
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Im pretty sure I already answered that here PSaint, but if you need me to clarify it for you just a wee bit more, which all the rest of seemed to understand, but you obviuosly didnt, here goes:
All the highlighted text boils down to this paragraph, so pay attention, Im gonna only use small words for you:
I have a really nice laptop that I use for editing purposes, which I carry around with me pretty much all the time. I cannot invest the tons of time required to be an uber raider, however, (and heres the point bud) if needed, I can log in pretty much whenever I want to so that I can get the video footage I need. If you need a 1st string dirge, Im sorry, but I dont have the time to do that. However, if you are interested in my offer to make videos for your guild, then I can log in whenever your killing it, and handle buisness.
Sorry my answer up top wasnt simple enough for you.
I can make it simpler if you like:
30+ hours a week raiding, cant do it. Log in for 2 or 3 hours at an odd time once in awhile to get some footage, can do it.
That easier for you to read muffin?
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12-14-2007, 04:40 PM
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Re: Should contested Epics even be bothered with?
Except you didn't at all. The post I quoted was the response to that bullshit you just quoted.
Jesus you're a dumbshit.
Try again.
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Oh and don't go for the time per week deal for not being able to play at the top end.
I work 48hrs
I go to school 16 hours
I go to clinicals 12-24 hours a week.
I am fully flagged and in EoF was killing avatars.
You fail.
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Originally Posted by Talonis
Instead of arguing with your doctorate in Wikipedia, I'll offer a little insight.
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12-14-2007, 04:42 PM
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[I cannot control my vocabulary]
Character: Uyaem
Guild: Xanadu
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Re: Should contested Epics even be bothered with?
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Originally Posted by Alesis
I have a firm policy about people who dont like who I am, what I say, or what Im about, and its stated clearly in my sig.
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I guess the people you asked if you could join their guild had the same policy then, which of course isn't hypocritical at all.
Also, when insulting a consultant, you're probably right - 90% of them are incompetent in my experience. 
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12-14-2007, 05:06 PM
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Re: Should contested Epics even be bothered with?
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Originally Posted by pagansaint
Except you didn't at all. The post I quoted was the response to that bullshit you just quoted.
Jesus you're a dumbshit.
Try again.
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Oh and don't go for the time per week deal for not being able to play at the top end.
I work 48hrs
I go to school 16 hours
I go to clinicals 12-24 hours a week.
I am fully flagged and in EoF was killing avatars.
You fail.
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What part of this is hard for you to understand?
30+ hours a week raiding, cant do it. Log in for 2 or 3 hours at an odd time once in awhile to get some footage, can do it.
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12-14-2007, 05:29 PM
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Re: Should contested Epics even be bothered with?
Im also gonna post this ina seperate post pagan, because multiple points in the same post seem to confuse you badly:
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There are 168 hours in a week.
The average human requires 8 hours a sleep a night @ 56 hours a week.
If you do the math, using the numbers provided, then it comes out too:
168-56-48-16-24 = 24 hours left a week. Your telling me that you are in an end game, contested killing guild? 24 hours divided by 7 days comes down to roughly 3.4 or so hours a day free time. If you play EQ2 for only those 3.5 hours a day, and are able to kill contesteds, get your farming done, handle your tradeskills, and manage your broker, then I sir, am amazed. I would like to hire you to stop by my house and teach me how thats even possible.
We didnt even take into consideration the other things that would eat up those 3.5 hours a day:
Do you travel to work? Do you grocery shop? Do you take your kids to the park or fuck your boyfriend?
Im done replying to you, I think your fucking crazy bud...
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12-14-2007, 06:45 PM
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Re: Should contested Epics even be bothered with?
Alesis, let's get back to arguing the point at hand. As you mention, you don't have the time or motivation to raid the contested end-game. Why do you think you should be able to then?
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12-14-2007, 07:16 PM
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Re: Should contested Epics even be bothered with?
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Originally Posted by Alesis
<confused rambling that STILL doesn't answer the question>
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Actually I am only on around 2 and a half hours a day on average.
Its not hard if you don't suck.
Not to mention I only sleep 6-7 hours so add another 7 hours to the "free" time.
Yay for laptop at work.
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Originally Posted by Talonis
Instead of arguing with your doctorate in Wikipedia, I'll offer a little insight.
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12-14-2007, 07:21 PM
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Re: Should contested Epics even be bothered with?
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Originally Posted by methulah
Alesis, let's get back to arguing the point at hand. As you mention, you don't have the time or motivation to raid the contested end-game. Why do you think you should be able to then?
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Response time is slow, I can only answer in waves as I wander back and forth thru the evening, but Ill say it one last time.
If that content where instanced, I would have the time, because my guild and I could attempt it on a regular raid schedule. As the current system stands, if an avatar or contested pops on our raid time, by the time we get there, its being pulled by the guys who have practiced it for a year.
An instance = everyone gets to experience the content, the current system means 1% do.
Thread done, Im not trying to make the point anymore, the ubers feel like they own it, and the non ubers would like to try it.
After 50+ pages theres nothing left to say on my end.
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12-14-2007, 08:01 PM
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[I cannot control my vocabulary]
Character: Uyaem
Guild: Xanadu
Server: Runnyeye
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Re: Should contested Epics even be bothered with?
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Originally Posted by Alesis
An instance = everyone gets to experience the content, the current system means 1% do.
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Bull. Shit.
1% of subscribers maybe. Completely irrelevant. How many % of people that care/bother about them experience them? THAT is the real question.
There is also a ton of players who don't experience crafting or raids in general. Does that mean it shouldn't exist? Do you find people who like the contested system to remove things from the game they dont WANT to experience? The answer since page 1 is no.
You fail again.
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